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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 09:55am
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I have seen this play a lot over the years and have always called it a fumble. But when I have two college officials telling me I'm wrong, I start to second guess myself.

-Josh
Well, I had this play in a college game this weekend right after the point guard crossed the division line and I did not call it a violation either. The opposing HC looked my way with the "" look on his face but I just indicated to him that it was fumble. Neither of my partners asked me about the play (they probably didn't see it) and the neutral observer didn't question me about it after the game.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 10:09am
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Despite the totally incorrect illegal dribble call by this official, I would be more worried about why my partner is looking into the backcourt as the C at the two players which the T is obviously watching. I'm more concerned about coverage areas than judgment.

Rather than question his decision on the play, you should be questioning why he was even looking there in the first place. Does he not trust you to pull your own weight on the crew?
Believe me Nevada, I was thinking the same thing. But since I'm just getting into this circle of officials I kept my mouth shut. The major problem that I have is that I look a hell of a lot young than I actually am. It gives me the sense that my partners do not trust me as much from the beginning. I try to make up for that with hustle, determination, and making sure to have a good pre-game that I'm actively involved in (if not leading). It's a learning experience. I got a note yesterday from the assigner that we were commended by both coaches via e-mail. So I'm happy with what we did even though we had a few situations we probably missed a call or two that we should have gotten.

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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 10:35am
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I certainly have a MAJOR problem with it. It is dead wrong because it leaves the L with EIGHT players to watch.

Sorry, but what you are seeing on TV is the old school way which is being eradicated. It is a detriment to the game to have the C out there ball-watching. If the T can't officiate 1-on-1 by himself, then he shouldn't be on the d@mn court!
Simple matter of math. With three officials and ten players, we have to trust our partner(s) -- who make up 33 1/3% or 50% of the referee team -- to referee two players (20% of the players). Understanding that typically there is more action close to the ball, a competent official should still be able to handle a 1v1 situation without assistance.
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