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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 02:51pm
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First and last name to coaches when we meet prior to the captains meeting and the first and last names again when I introduce myself and partners at the coaches and captains meeting.

In my area, coaches vote for officials to advance in the post season. I want to make sure they don't accidentaly vote for the wrong Scratch.
When I officiated in Kansas, it was recommended to hand each coach a card with our names on it, as they also vote for post season assignments there.

You can mark me down as not liking that process.

Now, it's first and last to coaches. Usually "hey, how ya doing?" to players individually as they come up for captains meetings, but if I'm introducing the entire crew I do "I'm Mr. X, this is Ms. Y and Mr. Z..."
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 03:19pm
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When I officiated in Kansas, it was recommended to hand each coach a card with our names on it, as they also vote for post season assignments there.

You can mark me down as not liking that process.

Now, it's first and last to coaches. Usually "hey, how ya doing?" to players individually as they come up for captains meetings, but if I'm introducing the entire crew I do "I'm Mr. X, this is Ms. Y and Mr. Z..."
Wisconsin has the same ranking card recommendation. Rankings from schools are supposed to impact post-season assignments. If I'm a coach, I'm tossing the card and verifying names in the book or from my AD. As an official, the card seems unnecessary and bothersome.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 03:21pm
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We hand out the cards here in CO, at all levels. Seems more of a formality.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 03:42pm
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I give my first and last name to everyone. I only allow coaches to call me by my first name. The players are not my peer or equal. Heck I still do not call adults that were adults when I was a child by their first name. I consider that disrespectful to them. Then again that is how I was raised.

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I do the same; my name is unique so I like to see if the coaches who don't know me think I'm pulling their leg.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 03:50pm
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I give my first and last name to everyone. I only allow coaches to call me by my first name. The players are not my peer or equal. Heck I still do not call adults that were adults when I was a child by their first name. I consider that disrespectful to them. Then again that is how I was raised.

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And that is still a great way to be raised!

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Agreed...and it has nothing to do with basketball or officiating. All minors in all situations get "I'm Mr. Lastname" when I give my name. Depending on the relationship/dynamics that develop it could change to "Mr. Firstname" over time.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 08:25pm
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Heck I still do not call adults that were adults when I was a child by their first name. I consider that disrespectful to them. Then again that is how I was raised.
I don't think that there are many of us left. My former wife used to hate it when I called my brother-in-law's father Mr. Smith. She thought that it was childish and that I should call him Bob. I've known Mr. Smith since I was a teenager. I'm not calling him by his first name unless he insists. I also use titles when I address people, Dr. Smith, Coach Jones, Reverend Brown, etc, even if they're a lot younger than me, and almost all people are a lot younger than me.

My daughter's boyfriend is from Australia. The first time I met him he called be Bill, not Mr. Mac. He wasn't at all being disrespectful, they are a lot more laid back Down Under. It took some getting used to. I'm used to friends of my three children calling me Mr. Mac. I guess it's because I'm a retired teacher and many of my kid's friends had me as their teacher.
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Wisconsin has the same ranking card recommendation. Rankings from schools are supposed to impact post-season assignments. If I'm a coach, I'm tossing the card and verifying names in the book or from my AD. As an official, the card seems unnecessary and bothersome.
I'm in WI. I've never handed out a card in basketball and ALWAYS hand one to the head coach in football. Our names and numbers are in the book.
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Agreed...and it has nothing to do with basketball or officiating. All minors in all situations get "I'm Mr. Lastname" when I give my name. Depending on the relationship/dynamics that develop it could change to "Mr. Firstname" over time.
Eh. I'm 40. I introduce myself as "Rich" to everyone. I use coaches' first names. I'm not one for formalities.

In the end, everyone can do whatever they want.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 10:43pm
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Eh. I'm 40. I introduce myself as "Rich" to everyone. I use coaches' first names. I'm not one for formalities.

In the end, everyone can do whatever they want.
Different strokes for different folks.

As an aside, with HS school players I look at myself as on par with school administrators or staff members. I sure hope my children (17 & 11) aren't calling the principal or any of their teachers by their first names.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 11:01pm
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Different strokes for different folks.

As an aside, with HS school players I look at myself as on par with school administrators or staff members. I sure hope my children (17 & 11) aren't calling the principal or any of their teachers by their first names.
I called a family friend one time by his first name. Not only did he tell my parents, I had both parents tell me not to do that anymore. I learned that lesson quick and I was about 11-12 at the time. I have not done that since. And I am 37 and as I said, if you were an adult when I was a child (and I knew you of course) your first name is off limits. I call you by your title or Mr. or Mrs./Ms.

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This has always fascinated me. I was raised in a very conservative small midwestern town, and I called all the adults by their first names unless they were teachers or coaches. My wife was raised in a similar small town about sixty miles away and she referred to her friends parents by first name, but other adults by Mr. or Mrs. Lastname.

The children in our church in Des Moines referred to adults by Mr. or Mrs. Firstname (an odd quirk), and that is something that I've seen used here as well. I'd never heard that before, but that still seems odd to me.

The lovely Mrs. just reminded me that the first time we heard "Mr. Firstname" was when visiting friends in Houston.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 11:53pm
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The lovely Mrs. just reminded me that the first time we heard "Mr. Firstname" was when visiting friends in Houston.
Interesting. I haven't been here that long but I don't think I've heard that one yet.

I like first and last name with coaches and first names with players. I've never had a player call me by first name, only by Mr Official, etc...though my favorite is calling me "blue" while in stripes.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2009, 11:54pm
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Interesting. I haven't been here that long but I don't think I've heard that one yet.

I like first and last name with coaches and first names with players. I've never had a player call me by first name, only by Mr Official, etc...though my favorite is calling me "blue" while in stripes.
I do like being called "blue," it takes me back to my playing days.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 12:40am
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Like most, I use first name with players and first/last names with coaches. The players don't remember your name once the game starts anyway, so I'm not that worried about being called by my last name.
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