To my fellow new officials...

[grunewar]

It sure is different depending on where you live.

Our V scrimmages started today. Four x 8 min quarters and one 4 min quarter. Unpaid.

Our evaluator conspired with the coaches and tried to sneak six players on the court three times....and we caught it each time I'm happy to say. One of the parents yelled at one of players - "Can't you get that right?" She turned to the stands and said. "The coach made us do it."

For us, we must do three V scrimmages or no V schedule.

There's talk of reducing the number of lower level games, eliminating 9th grade games, paying $100 more for the kids who make the team, etc. Times are tough all over.

[jTheUmp]

Agreed with the original post. I'm brand-new at basketball, and just worked my first scrimmage this morning. 12 teams, 6 courts, 28 officials. I ended up working with a one of the guys from my varsity football crew for awhile. We had enough officials so that we could rotate in and out, and our association's clinician spent the first half of the scrimmage observing me and the others on my court and giving me tips and pointers when I was rotated out. If I'm lucky, I'll remember at least half of the pointers he gave me.

I was a bit nervous about officiating basketball... I haven't played in years. But I'm a lot more confident now.

I have no idea if we get paid or not, and I honestly couldn't care less at this point. I was there for the experience and mentoring, the money is irrelevant to me at this point.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by grunewar

One of the parents yelled at one of players - "Can't you get that right?" She turned to the stands and said. "The coach made us do it."

I had a Catholic middle school junior varsity game today. During the first period, I notice that one player is wearing one of those "Allen Iverson" sleeves. I don't like being the fashion police, so, especially on this level, I will bend, but not break, a few fashion police rules. As the intermission is about to end, I single out the young man, bring him to his coach, and tell the young man, "I'm going to ask you a question. You are to answer yes. Is that sleeve for a medical reason?". He answers, "No". I say to the player, "I think you misunderstood me, is that for a medical reason?". He answers, "Yes", this time. As I'm waiting for my partner to inbound the ball to start the period, the coach says to me, "His mom raised him right, to always tell the truth".

Same game, during the second period, my partner thanked a player for wearing a watch in the game, but that we had an official timekeeper and wouldn't be needing his services, so he could take it off.

[mbyron]

At my scrimmage yesterday, a girl had the seemingly mandatory tape-over-new-earring thing going on.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

At my scrimmage yesterday, a girl had the seemingly mandatory tape-over-new-earring thing going on.

In my little corner of the Constitution State, we've been told to just ask them if there are earrings under the tape. If they reply, "Yes", then we tell them that they can only play without the earrings. If they reply, "No", then we accept that, and they play. No more questions asked. We're not the "What's Hiding Under The Tape Detectives".

[Back In The Saddle]

Boys V scrimmage on Friday, my P and I are making the rounds just before the jump getting all the bands off the kids. P has a little convo with one kid with one of those tied on friendship band thingees, but he lets the kid keep it. I asked him about it afterward. Apparently the convo went like this...

P: The band has got to come off
Kid: I tried, it's too tight
P: Your girlfriend tied it on?
Kid: (sheepish smile) Yeah
P: Okay, but you've only got until next game to tell her you're going to have to take it off

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Boys V scrimmage on Friday, my P and I are making the rounds just before the jump getting all the bands off the kids. P has a little convo with one kid with one of those tied on friendship band thingees, but he lets the kid keep it. I asked him about it afterward. Apparently the convo went like this...

P: The band has got to come off
Kid: I tried, it's too tight
P: Your girlfriend tied it on?
Kid: (sheepish smile) Yeah
P: Okay, but you've only got until next game to tell her you're going to have to take it off

In a case similar to this last yr I had a player come back on the floor with white, medical tape over it.....objections?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by grunewar

In a case similar to this last yr I had a player come back on the floor with white, medical tape over it.....objections?

Other than it still being illegal, no objections.

The jewelry rule prohibits these bracelets; it does not "prohibit them unless covered with tape."

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Boys V scrimmage on Friday, my P and I are making the rounds just before the jump getting all the bands off the kids. P has a little convo with one kid with one of those tied on friendship band thingees, but he lets the kid keep it. I asked him about it afterward. Apparently the convo went like this...

P: The band has got to come off
Kid: I tried, it's too tight
P: Your girlfriend tied it on?
Kid: (sheepish smile) Yeah
P: Okay, but you've only got until next game to tell her you're going to have to take it off

Are you sure that wasn't the collar around his neck?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Boys V scrimmage on Friday, my P and I are making the rounds just before the jump getting all the bands off the kids. P has a little convo with one kid with one of those tied on friendship band thingees, but he lets the kid keep it. I asked him about it afterward. Apparently the convo went like this...

P: The band has got to come off
Kid: I tried, it's too tight
P: Your girlfriend tied it on?
Kid: (sheepish smile) Yeah
P: Okay, but you've only got until next game to tell her you're going to have to take it off

Sometimes you have to choose between p***y and basketball.

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Sometimes you have to choose between p***y and basketball.

I had to make that choice a number of times many years ago. I don't have that choice nearly as often nowadays.

[RefItUp]

Originally Posted by mbyron

At my scrimmage yesterday, a girl had the seemingly mandatory tape-over-new-earring thing going on.

Best reason ever! I still don't understand why they go out and get this done when they know we are going to make them take them out.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I had a Catholic middle school junior varsity game today. During the first period, I notice that one player is wearing one of those "Allen Iverson" sleeves. I don't like being the fashion police, so, especially on this level, I will bend, but not break, a few fashion police rules. As the intermission is about to end, I single out the young man, bring him to his coach, and tell the young man, "I'm going to ask you a question. You are to answer yes. Is that sleeve for a medical reason?". He answers, "No". I say to the player, "I think you misunderstood me, is that for a medical reason?". He answers, "Yes", this time. As I'm waiting for my partner to inbound the ball to start the period, the coach says to me, "His mom raised him right, to always tell the truth".

Same game, during the second period, my partner thanked a player for wearing a watch in the game, but that we had an official timekeeper and wouldn't be needing his services, so he could take it off.

I'm away from home, don't have books or time to look on line for rule reference on sleeves. Can't remember is it's permissable to wear long sleeve performance type shirt. The one sleeve look I know is illegal unless for health issues. I believe it's under 4-1- 3,4,5 or close to it?

Recall the Candace Parker sleeve situation a few years back and can't recall if one long sleeve or full shirt?

[PIAA REF]

We started getting paid last year and last year was a mess. Schools were paying 20 dollars per official for a 2 hour scrimmage. The problem was (is) that the schools only want to pay 3 officials for a varsity scrimmage. 2 hours straight can be tiresome. Some are smart enough to add a 4th. BUt like was previously stated now you have guys who never did a scrimmage signing up for as many as they can get where myself did it your years for a thank you and maybe some tube socks. Another issue we had last year and in yrs past was you went to the scrimmage you wanted to go. Some had no one show while others had 8 show. Now they are assigned, which should help immensly.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

Another issue we had last year and in yrs past was you went to the scrimmage you wanted to go. Some had no one show while others had 8 show. Now they are assigned, which should help immensly.

I hear ya REF - we've had issues similar to this also.

Saturday we had three V guys for a scrimmage, which was great as we did all four quarters, plus the additional half-quarter.

As the scrimmage season draws to a close, in previous years, all those officials who need their three scrimmages in will all arrive for the same game and we would have ten guys for two games.

Hopefully this is not the case this yr!