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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 12:35am
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That's what I thought when I read the OP, but after reading some of the responses I was confused about either the question itself or about the answers.
I get confused by a lot of the responses to a lot of posts on this forum.
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 12:57am
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I'm confused. Is the question saying, "A has an AP throw-in and throws up a wedgie so what's the next play?" Or is it saying, "A has a regular throw-in and throws up a wedgie, and the next play is an AP?"
You're confused because someone (AKOFL) brought "losing the arrow" into the question when it didn't exist in the first place.
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 01:48am
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 07:34am
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My feeling exactly. Nobody took the arrow from them. They were not robbed. They were entitled to an AP throw-in, and they received an AP throw-in. What they did with it, is their problem.
For some folks, it's not enough to know the rules. For some folks, it's also important to understand the rules.

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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 09:22am
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And they lose the arrow due to the violation.
It is an alternating possession throw-in when A1's throw-in lodges between the backboard and the ring.

Only if the bolded throw-in is an AP throw-in. If not, nothing happens to the arrow as a result of the bolded throw-in. (As I read the OP question).
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 09:54am
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The answer is FALSE in every way the statement can possibly be interpreted.
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 12:50pm
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It is an alternating possession throw-in when A1's throw-in lodges between the backboard and the ring.
No, it isn't.

9-2-8 (already cited): "[During a throw-in] the thrown ball shall not become lodged between the backboard and ring or come to rest on the flange before it touches or is touched by another player.

PENALTY: (Section 2) The ball becomes dead when the violation or technical foul occurs. Following a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in at the original throw-in spot."

It doesn't matter what happened previously that occasioned the throw-in by A.
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 02:25pm
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You're confused because someone (AKOFL) brought "losing the arrow" into the question when it didn't exist in the first place.
I apologise so so much for being the only person ever to be confused by a question on this forum. I will keep my 2 cents to myself until ( if ever ) m confusion goes away. So sorry bob jenkins
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 02:58pm
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I apologise so so much for being the only person ever to be confused by a question on this forum. I will keep my 2 cents to myself until ( if ever ) m confusion goes away. So sorry bob jenkins
Well, AKOFL, you weren't the only one!! And it's mostly a problem of the way the questions on the #$%^& test are written. I hate that thing!!
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 03:02pm
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They are meant to be taken a variety of way with only one right answer. i have a simple mind sometimes, but I try
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 03:02pm
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It's mostly a problem of the way the questions on the #$%^& test are written.
Amen.
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 05:00pm
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It is an alternating possession throw-in when A1's throw-in lodges between the backboard and the ring.[/B]
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And it's mostly a problem of the way the questions on the #$%^& test are written. I hate that thing!!
Juulie,
There are definitely poorly worded questions on this test. Quite honestly, I don't think this is one of them. The purpose of this question is to ascertain WHEN the ball being lodged results in an AP throw-in (lodged during the normal course of play last played by a player inbounds) and when the ball being lodged results in a throw-in to the opposition (lodged during a throw-in such as the one described in the test question).
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Old Sat Nov 21, 2009, 05:19pm
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Juulie,
There are definitely poorly worded questions on this test. Quite honestly, I don't think this is one of them. The purpose of this question is to ascertain WHEN the ball being lodged results in an AP throw-in (lodged during the normal course of play last played by a player inbounds) and when the ball being lodged results in a throw-in to the opposition (lodged during a throw-in such as the one described in the test question).
Yes, that's how it's meant, but several took it differently. Which means it wasn't well written. IMO
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Old Sun Nov 22, 2009, 02:08am
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Yes, that's how it's meant, but several took it differently. Which means it wasn't well written. IMO
As it happens, it's the only one I missed on the test. So that may say something about how well it was written.

When I was studying for my teaching credential I took a course on writing tests. T/F tests are considered the worst for testing actual knowledge of the rules.

The intent, IMHO, of the NFHS test is only to get people into the book. It really isn't to test any real grasp of the rules.

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Old Sun Nov 22, 2009, 02:49am
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When I was studying for my teaching credential I took a course on writing tests. T/F tests are considered the worst for testing actual knowledge of the rules.
Which is why I have always advocated having an official who's day job is a teacher, hopefully an English teacher, on the test committee.
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