Can a Coach's Instructions Earn a T?

[Texas Aggie]

"Coach, you and the player who throws a flagrant elbow will be ejected if that happens."

Turn and walk away.

[SAK]

I try to stay away from the coach during a timeout. Why should you be close enough to hear that unless it is when you are informing the team of the first horn or trying to get them out of a timeout.

[Spence]

Originally Posted by SAK

I try to stay away from the coach during a timeout. Why should you be close enough to hear that unless it is when you are informing the team of the first horn or trying to get them out of a timeout.

Timeout called. Throw-in in front of Team A's bench. Administering official is to be out away from the bench in line with the other official. If its a 30 second TO that official is not very far away. It seems like it would be easy to hear the coach.

[Spence]

BTW I'm not looking to whack a coach. A fan asked me what I would do. My first reaction was I'd do nothing other than watch for rough play.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Spence

BTW I'm not looking to whack a coach. A fan asked me what I would do. My first reaction was I'd do nothing other than watch for rough play.

This is why you do not listen to fans about how to apply rules. They think what is instructed by a coach is directly under our jurisdiction purely on their ignorance of the rules and our role in the game.

Peace

[dacodee]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

"Coach, you and the player who throws a flagrant elbow will be ejected if that happens."

Turn and walk away.

I had it happen in one of my games and this is exactly how I handled it.

I'm Trail, in front of coaches bench. He yell's out to his team to start throwing elbows. Without drawing more attention to the idiot, I simply told him, "the first one to do it is gone, with you, coach!" Good thing the kids were a lot smarter than the coach. No elbows thrown...

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by dacodee

Good thing the kids were a lot smarter than the coach. .

Always a good thing....!

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by dacodee

I simply told him, "the first one to do it is gone, with you, coach!" Good thing the kids were a lot smarter than the coach. No elbows thrown...

What would we have if we went this route? Flagrant personal foul against the offending player and a flagrant technical foul against the head coach, giving the offended team 4 shots and the ball?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Welpe

What would we have if we went this route? Flagrant personal foul against the offending player and a flagrant technical foul against the head coach, giving the offended team 4 shots and the ball?

Yes, and in that order. Of course, the offended player would have to shoot the flagrant FTs (unless injured) and then any player(s) on the offended team could shoot the T. And the inbound spot would be the division line, not the spot of the foul because the technical came last.

Don't forget - the AC would be seat belted.

[Lotto]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

"Coach, you and the player who throws a flagrant elbow will be ejected if that happens."

Why would one adjudge the coach's instructions to be unsporting only if a player acts on them? If the instructions are unsporting, then shouldn't they be penalized immediately?

[Welpe]

Thanks, Mark.

[derwil]

If the kid did put an elbow to the teeth of his opponent and you cominced to tossing him and the coach, how many FTs we shooting?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by derwil

If the kid did put an elbow to the teeth of his opponent and you cominced to tossing him and the coach, how many FTs we shooting?

We don't shoot any - the players do.

Seriously, read up the thread to find your answer.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Lotto

Why would one adjudge the coach's instructions to be unsporting only if a player acts on them? If the instructions are unsporting, then shouldn't they be penalized immediately?

I would say this might fall under the same premise as a player getting ejected for fighting if his actions instigate a fight even though his actions would not themselves warrant an ejection.

[BillyMac]

Remember when if a coach yelled, "foul him", to one of his players, it was pretty much an automatic intentional foul? Now it's considered a part of the game, and the intentional foul may not be called every time in this situation.