3 Seconds - About Time

[M&M Guy]

It's about time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

It's about time.

I'm going to wait for the movie.

[M&M Guy]

Will it win Best Documentary, Short Subject?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Will it win Best Documentary, Short Subject?

Really? You had to make it about Chuck? Chuck Chuck Chuck! Everyone wants to talk about Chuck!

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Really? You had to make it about Chuck? Chuck Chuck Chuck! Everyone wants to talk about Chuck!

I don't...I'd rather talk about that Bhuck Elics guy - now there's a ref's referee for ya!!

And wanja - the quote from the NCAA...is that included in the Men's POE's? Cause I don't see it in the Women's POE's that I have in front of me.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I don't...I'd rather talk about that Bhuck Elics guy - now there's a ref's referee for ya!!

And wanja - the quote from the NCAA...is that included in the Men's POE's? Cause I don't see it in the Women's POE's that I have in front of me.

Bhuck is a legend whose shadow makes officials like Chuck look like children.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Really? You had to make it about Chuck? Chuck Chuck Chuck! Everyone wants to talk about Chuck!

Who let Cindy Brady on here?

Ya know, I wondered if that would be the direction my comment would go. I did actually think about re-wording it, but thought the better of it and decided to leave it.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Will it win Best Documentary, Short Subject?

Since it addresses FEEBLE stuff, it probably would be entered in the Foreign Film category.

[mbyron]

Just like the old days. Where's JR when you need crotchety?

[BLS]

In NFHS rules, I couldn't find the allowance for suspending a violation ruling "when, before 3 seconds, an offensive player starts to move to leave the restricted area". There is only an allowance for players moving to try for goal.

Am I missing something in NFHS?

[wanja]

Originally Posted by BLS

In NFHS rules, I couldn't find the allowance for suspending a violation ruling "when, before 3 seconds, an offensive player starts to move to leave the restricted area". There is only an allowance for players moving to try for goal.

Good catch.

FIBA rules state that:

"Allowances must be made for a player whom makes an attempt to leave the restricted area."

NBA rules state that:
"If he passes off and immediately makes a move out of the lane, there should be no whistle."

The NCAA issue of concern statement includes:

"A three second count shall be suspended when a player who has been in the lane for fewer than three seconds has made a conscientious effort to leave the lane"


There is no allowance for starting to leave the restricted area under NFHS and WNBA rules. I've edited the original post accordingly.

As a practical matter, if a player starts to leave the area before three seconds and directly leaves, I am unlikely to call a violation. When the timing is so close, the benefit of the doubt goes for a no call.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by BLS

In NFHS rules, I couldn't find the allowance for suspending a violation ruling "when, before 3 seconds, an offensive player starts to move to leave the restricted area". There is only an allowance for players moving to try for goal.

Am I missing something in NFHS?

No, you're not. And if you look up at the article wanja posted, the mention of suspending the count while leaving the restricted area is under "NCAA Areas of Concern".

Now, that said, I've always included that line of thinking in NFHS games. I cannot remember if it is an actual interp, or if it was simply an example given to me by a more experienced official, but I was told to suspend the count in the case of an offensive player trying to get out of the lane, and is blocked by a defensive screener or "traffic". It doesn't seem fair (damn, now I'm using that word...) to call the violation when the player is actually trying to get out and cannot due to actions by the defense. Does anyone remember if they've seen that interp somewhere?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Just like the old days. Where's JR when you need crotchety?

Stfu.

(How's that? I'm just trying to channel JR.)

Ahhh, I forsee some howler monkeys going nuts this year. Going to be a lovely season.

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

It's about time.

Yep you're right - about 3 seconds worth!