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[OHBBREF]

You do not have to consider this a try
it makes a difference in enforcement

If it is clearly a pass and it hits the rim and bounds into the back court it would be a BC violation.

If it is considered a try then the case play applies there is no BC violation and the SC would reset.

just because a ball passing in the general area hits the rim it does not make it a try.

Originally Posted by jdmara

... I told him that you have to consider this a shot (as the case play would then apply).
-Josh

You are trying to make the situation fit the case play rather than the case play fit the situation, you have to call it what it is.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

You do not have to consider this a try
it makes a difference in enforcement

If it is clearly a pass and it hits the rim and bounds into the back court it would be a BC violation.

If it is considered a try then the case play applies there is no BC violation and the SC would reset.

just because a ball passing in the general area hits the rim it does not make it a try.



You are trying to make the situation fit the case play rather than the case play fit the situation, you have to call it what it is.

True story, that. And well explained.

I will go on record here saying I hold with the generally prevailing philosophy. Unless it is undeniably a pass, I'm calling it a shot.

[IowaMike]

I too would call it a shot. I think you got it right. You're also a better man than I, because I would never work a men's rec league. I worked a men's league tournament as part of our association's clinic about five years ago and it was the worst officiating experience of my life. Three games and about 7 or 8 technical fouls and two fights. The players were complete idiots. And get this, all of the players were in law enforcement. Cops, correctional officers, sheriff's deputy's, firefighters etc. Unbelievable. Never again. I know guys that do men's league baseball and they tell me that kind of behavior is standard there too.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by IowaMike

I too would call it a shot. I think you got it right. You're also a better man than I, because I would never work a men's rec league. I worked a men's league tournament as part of our association's clinic about five years ago and it was the worst officiating experience of my life. Three games and about 7 or 8 technical fouls and two fights. The players were complete idiots. And get this, all of the players were in law enforcement. Cops, correctional officers, sheriff's deputy's, firefighters etc. Unbelievable. Never again. I know guys that do men's league baseball and they tell me that kind of behavior is standard there too.

Mike-

I have cut out a lot of rec leagues this fall. This one is very well behaved because it's in a no-nonsense community center. There is a no swearing policy that is STRICTLY enforce and the guys get the hint very quickly that you're done if you swear or make a scene of any kind.

-Josh

Originally Posted by IowaMike

I too would call it a shot. I think you got it right. You're also a better man than I, because I would never work a men's rec league. I worked a men's league tournament as part of our association's clinic about five years ago and it was the worst officiating experience of my life. Three games and about 7 or 8 technical fouls and two fights. The players were complete idiots. And get this, all of the players were in law enforcement. Cops, correctional officers, sheriff's deputy's, firefighters etc. Unbelievable. Never again. I know guys that do men's league baseball and they tell me that kind of behavior is standard there too.

Ehhh, they couldn't have been any worse than the regional Greek Orthodox tournament I worked once.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Ehhh, they couldn't have been any worse than the regional Greek Orthodox tournament I worked once.

Couldn't be any worse than the team of basketball officials playing, could they? lol Talking about officiating while playing wow. We do have one team in the Rec League that is made up of basketball officials. They are the problem child of the group. They get to "the line" but never cross it. They know better.

-Josh

Nothing worse than the "I ref too" type of player, just to find out later that their experience level is 3rd grade YMCA games where they don't even keep score

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Nothing worse than the "I ref too" type of player, just to find out later that their experience level is 3rd grade YMCA games where they don't even keep score

Last summer (2008) I had a entire coaching staff tell me they were evaluators for a big-time officiating camp here in VA.

Originally Posted by jdmara

Couldn't be any worse than the team of basketball officials playing, could they? lol Talking about officiating while playing wow. We do have one team in the Rec League that is made up of basketball officials. They are the problem child of the group. They get to "the line" but never cross it. They know better.

-Josh

Oh, those Greek boys were probably worse. Imagine some of the friction between some of the old Greek families in the Midwest cities spilling over onto the basketball court.