Two fouls close together

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by jdmara

If the partner whistles a foul as well, don't be afraid to communicate with him/her. Discuss what you saw and what they saw. If he calls an intentional foul on the shove. Then let both fouls stand and shoot some free throws!

-Josh

Unfortunately, you cannot let "both fouls stand". As Mark said, the common foul on B1 happend first, so since the ball was dead, the shove has to either be ignored or be a T. You cannot, by rule, have an intentional foul during a dead ball.

I think I understand what Dbyb's partner was trying to do - penalize the shove without having to go all out and issue the T. But once the first foul occured, any call after that has to be a T. I don't have a big problem with stepping in and telling players to knock the crap off. I also don't have a problem with issuing the T, as it lets the players know we are not going to tolerate any extraciricular activity.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

As Mark said, the common foul on B1 happend first, so since the ball was dead, the shove has to either be ignored or be a T. You cannot, by rule, have an intentional personal foul during a dead ball.

I know what you meant, just wanted clear it up for any newbies preparing to take their test.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

I know what you meant, just wanted clear it up for any newbies preparing to take their test.

You're correct - thanks. Yes, there is a difference between an intentional person and intentional technical foul, and I was talking about the personal foul, which is what I believe the OP's partner was calling.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

I know what you meant, just wanted clear it up for any newbies preparing to take their test.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

You're correct - thanks. Yes, there is a difference between an intentional person and intentional technical foul, and I was talking about the personal foul, which is what I believe the OP's partner was calling.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Unfortunately, you cannot let "both fouls stand". As Mark said, the common foul on B1 happend first, so since the ball was dead, the shove has to either be ignored or be a T. You cannot, by rule, have an intentional foul during a dead ball.

I think I understand what Dbyb's partner was trying to do - penalize the shove without having to go all out and issue the T. But once the first foul occured, any call after that has to be a T. I don't have a big problem with stepping in and telling players to knock the crap off. I also don't have a problem with issuing the T, as it lets the players know we are not going to tolerate any extraciricular activity.

Good catch gentleman. I was thinking intentional technical foul

-Josh