Ejected coaches must take test!

[Mark Padgett]

The Oregon State Activities Assn. (OSAA) announced that any coach ejected from any HS game must complete an online sportsmanship course to be reinstated. An OSAA spokesperson said the purpose was to turn the situation into an "educational setting rather than just punitive".

Currently, ejected coaches are suspended for one game and their school is fined $50. The fines can escalate as ejections pile up. With the new rule, ejected coaches are also required to complete this new course within seven days of their school receiving the go ahead to take the course. If a school receives five or more ejections during one school year, that school must also submit a written plan of correction to the OSAA. Typically, that school's AD and coaches from the offending program participate in that.

Sounds like a step in the right direction.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

The Oregon State Activities Assn. (OSAA) announced that any coach ejected from any HS game must complete an online sportsmanship course to be reinstated. An OSAA spokesperson said the purpose was to turn the situation into an "educational setting rather than just punitive".

Currently, ejected coaches are suspended for one game and their school is fined $50. The fines can escalate as ejections pile up. With the new rule, ejected coaches are also required to complete this new course within seven days of their school receiving the go ahead to take the course. If a school receives five or more ejections during one school year, that school must also submit a written plan of correction to the OSAA. Typically, that school's AD and coaches from the offending program participate in that.

Sounds like a step in the right direction.

Sounds like a great program to me! Should definitely be instituted in more areas!

-Josh

[Loudwhistle]

What happens to coaches that can't pass the online course? They should add that they have to pass the same rules test we do in order to officiate--but I guess that would mean eventually there wouldn't be any more coaches since most don't even know half the rules!!

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle

What happens to coaches that can't pass the online course? They should add that they have to pass the same rules test we do in order to officiate--but I guess that would mean eventually there wouldn't be any more coaches since most don't even know half the rules!!

Head coaches in Missouri have to take the Part I and Part II tests. Unfortunately, they don't actually look up the answers. They pass the answers around and fill them out without actually reading the questions.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Head coaches in Missouri have to take the Part I and Part II tests. Unfortunately, they don't actually look up the answers. They pass the answers around and fill them out without actually reading the questions.

It's a good thing officials don't do that.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It's a good thing officials don't do that.

Yes, a very good thing.

With Part II around here, a lot of officials do that. I always take the Part II just like the Part I just to see how well I can do without having the answers fed to me.

Originally Posted by zm1283

Head coaches in Missouri have to take the Part I and Part II tests. Unfortunately, they don't actually look up the answers. They pass the answers around and fill them out without actually reading the questions.

The other night, while cooling down during halftime of our football game, one of my crewmates and I were discussing basketball a little. We hit on the point of the suspensions in Iowa vs. the classes in Nebraska as far as ejected coaches go. He reminded me that in Iowa, the girls' association requires the head coaches (we think at the least) to take the same test as the officials.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

The other night, while cooling down during halftime of our football game, one of my crewmates and I were discussing basketball a little. We hit on the point of the suspensions in Iowa vs. the classes in Nebraska as far as ejected coaches go. He reminded me that in Iowa, the girls' association requires the head coaches (we think at the least) to take the same test as the officials.

Not to be cynical (okay, too late), but I wonder...

When folks come trolling for test answers here, rather than roasting them over hot coals...perhaps we should just suggest they find a nice coaches forum in one of these states, where the answers will no doubt flow freely.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

The Oregon State Activities Assn. (OSAA) announced that any coach ejected from any HS game must complete an online sportsmanship course to be reinstated. An OSAA spokesperson said the purpose was to turn the situation into an "educational setting rather than just punitive".

Currently, ejected coaches are suspended for one game and their school is fined $50. The fines can escalate as ejections pile up. With the new rule, ejected coaches are also required to complete this new course within seven days of their school receiving the go ahead to take the course. If a school receives five or more ejections during one school year, that school must also submit a written plan of correction to the OSAA. Typically, that school's AD and coaches from the offending program participate in that.

Sounds like a step in the right direction.

Sounds like the sportsmanship equivalent to anger management classes to me.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Currently, ejected coaches are suspended for one game and their school is fined $50...

I believe the fine in VA is around $500. I love the idea of a quiz. They should make it 2 part, 1/2 sportsmanship, 1/2 rules.

[biz]

MA has been doing the same thing for a while now. If a coach gets ejected in any sport he has to go to the state athletic association (which is in the middle of nowhere) and take a sportsmanship class.

As a coach myself the thought of driving 1 1/2 hrs to take a 4 hr class is enough to keep me minding my p's and q's.

[grunewar]

While I haven't reffed nearly as long as some folks here who have stated they've been doing it for 20 and/or 30 yrs, I'm just curious, how many coaches have you, your partner, or those in your Association ejected?

I've never ejected a coach, seen one ejected, or even heard of it? Big problem? Small problem? Larger issue for different parts of the country?

Just curious.
Thanks

[biz]

I've never had to eject a coach from a high school game, but I've ejected two coaches from youth leagues that I ref. One was an 8th grade travel team coach and the other was 6th grade. 2 in just about 10 years of officiating is pretty low I think, but I'd be interested to hear from others.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by grunewar

While I haven't reffed nearly as long as some folks here who have stated they've been doing it for 20 and/or 30 yrs, I'm just curious, how many coaches have you, your partner, or those in your Association ejected?

I've never ejected a coach, seen one ejected, or even heard of it? Big problem? Small problem? Larger issue for different parts of the country?

Just curious.
Thanks

I've ejected 2 HS coaches in 8 seasons of officiating. First time I gave the coach both T's back-to-back. Second occurrence the coach had received a T early in the game from one of my partners and I had to stick him in the last minute of the game.

Over the last few years I think my HS association averages maybe 2-3 ejections a season. The $500 fine is a great deterrent.

[SAK]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I've ejected 2 HS coaches in 8 seasons of officiating. First time I gave the coach both T's back-to-back. Second occurrence the coach had received a T early in the game from one of my partners and I had to stick him in the last minute of the game.

Over the last few years I think my HS association averages maybe 2-3 ejections a season. The $500 fine is a great deterrent.

I can see how this fine would be a great deturrent. I think that more areas should institue it. I know that in PA, an ejected coach or player is required to sit out the remainder of the current contest as well as one more. I think that is it. I would like to see the PIAA adopt something similar to this with a stiff fine and/or sportsmanship test (preferably with a class)