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Old Wed Sep 23, 2009, 11:15pm
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What happens to coaches that can't pass the online course? They should add that they have to pass the same rules test we do in order to officiate--but I guess that would mean eventually there wouldn't be any more coaches since most don't even know half the rules!!
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Old Wed Sep 23, 2009, 11:31pm
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What happens to coaches that can't pass the online course? They should add that they have to pass the same rules test we do in order to officiate--but I guess that would mean eventually there wouldn't be any more coaches since most don't even know half the rules!!
Head coaches in Missouri have to take the Part I and Part II tests. Unfortunately, they don't actually look up the answers. They pass the answers around and fill them out without actually reading the questions.
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Old Thu Sep 24, 2009, 08:11am
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Head coaches in Missouri have to take the Part I and Part II tests. Unfortunately, they don't actually look up the answers. They pass the answers around and fill them out without actually reading the questions.

It's a good thing officials don't do that.
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Old Thu Sep 24, 2009, 08:48am
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It's a good thing officials don't do that.
Yes, a very good thing.

With Part II around here, a lot of officials do that. I always take the Part II just like the Part I just to see how well I can do without having the answers fed to me.
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Yes, a very good thing.

With Part II around here, a lot of officials do that. I always take the Part II just like the Part I just to see how well I can do without having the answers fed to me.
As if they aren't already fed to us by rulebook we're allowed to reference during the test.
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Old Thu Sep 24, 2009, 09:01am
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As if they aren't already fed to us by rulebook we're allowed to reference during the test.
True, but at least you're looking them up rather than just filling them in in five minutes without looking at a single question.
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Old Thu Sep 24, 2009, 09:07am
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True, but at least you're looking them up rather than just filling them in in five minutes without looking at a single question.
For me, it would just take longer if someone was feeding me answers, b/c I would still want to look up the answer in the rulebook. I would probably have to go back and change a few of those answers.
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Old Mon Sep 28, 2009, 12:47pm
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Head coaches in Missouri have to take the Part I and Part II tests. Unfortunately, they don't actually look up the answers. They pass the answers around and fill them out without actually reading the questions.
The other night, while cooling down during halftime of our football game, one of my crewmates and I were discussing basketball a little. We hit on the point of the suspensions in Iowa vs. the classes in Nebraska as far as ejected coaches go. He reminded me that in Iowa, the girls' association requires the head coaches (we think at the least) to take the same test as the officials.
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Old Mon Sep 28, 2009, 02:08pm
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The other night, while cooling down during halftime of our football game, one of my crewmates and I were discussing basketball a little. We hit on the point of the suspensions in Iowa vs. the classes in Nebraska as far as ejected coaches go. He reminded me that in Iowa, the girls' association requires the head coaches (we think at the least) to take the same test as the officials.
Not to be cynical (okay, too late), but I wonder...

When folks come trolling for test answers here, rather than roasting them over hot coals...perhaps we should just suggest they find a nice coaches forum in one of these states, where the answers will no doubt flow freely.
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Old Mon Sep 28, 2009, 03:14pm
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Not to be cynical (okay, too late), but I wonder...

When folks come trolling for test answers here, rather than roasting them over hot coals...perhaps we should just suggest they find a nice coaches forum in one of these states, where the answers will no doubt flow freely.
Honestly, those coaches aren't that stupid when it comes to getting the test answers. They just call up the official who lives in their neighborhood and ask for the answers.
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Old Wed Sep 30, 2009, 08:48am
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Why wait for ejection?

Coaches who pick up more than just the rare T are usually coaches who already spend the entire game screaming at their players -- it seems that they have the belief that they, and only they, have any idea what do to at any given moment during a basketball game; whether it be set a screen, position for a rebound, drive the lane or call pushing off.

I'd suggest the rules and sportsmanship test for any coach who is ejected or who picks up more than two Ts in a season. A couple along the way over the course of 20-25 games can perhaps be forgiven as being overly passionate or trying too hard to get the next call. Any more than that and the guy or gal needs to sit and think about the example being set
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Coaches who pick up more than just the rare T are usually coaches who already spend the entire game screaming at their players -- it seems that they have the belief that they, and only they, have any idea what do to at any given moment during a basketball game; whether it be set a screen, position for a rebound, drive the lane or call pushing off.

I'd suggest the rules and sportsmanship test for any coach who is ejected or who picks up more than two Ts in a season. A couple along the way over the course of 20-25 games can perhaps be forgiven as being overly passionate or trying too hard to get the next call. Any more than that and the guy or gal needs to sit and think about the example being set
So "trying too hard to get the next call" is okay sportsmanship, as long as you only do it occasionally? IMHO, working an official to get a call is bad sportsmanship. Period.
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