What's the point of vacating?

[grunewar]

JPaco54

I liked the comments to the article better. This one was my favorite:

"I can't believe he had sex with her in the restaurant, then paid for an abortion. And he still gets to keep his job,......Oh, wait. Wrong scumbag coach now living in Kentucky."

[dsturdy5]

In addition to the test taking scandal is the fact that Derrick Rose's brother was given special benefits (ie. able to ride the team plane to away games). You can't tell me Calipari didn't know about that.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by dsturdy5

In addition to the test taking scandal is the fact that Derrick Rose's brother was given special benefits (ie. able to ride the team plane to away games). You can't tell me Calipari didn't know about that.

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. You can't tell me he did and know you're right.

There are a lot of people on those planes, lots of boosters and university staff, and I doubt the coach is the one checking who is on it aside from checking that he's got his players.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Fritz

This created quite a bit of discussion in my neck of the woods yesterday; what if Chalmers' shot rims out and the Tigers win? Would they NCAA vacate the championship, and if so, would that mean my Jayhawks would be the belated champs?

Consensus seemed to be that the NCAA would have meted out a different penalty and avoided vacating a "major" championship like D-1 men's BB, and creating more confusion/controversy over who should be declared the champs.

When a game is vacated, the other team does not get the win....cause they didn't win. Any one of the teams that were eliminated by the vacated team would have an argument to be the champion.

The game simply never happened and there would be no champion.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

When a game is vacated, the other team does not get the win....cause they didn't win. Any one of the teams that were eliminated by the vacated team would have an argument to be the champion.

The game simply never happened and there would be no champion.

So who keeps the money from those games which never happened?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

So who keeps the money from those games which never happened?

The NCAA gets it, of course.

[bbcof83]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The NCAA gets it, of course.

I thought I read Conference USA gets the cash.

Originally Posted by bbcof83

I thought I read Conference USA gets the cash.

In Memphis' case, they have to return the money to the conference, who will probably redistribute it to the other schools, if they're anything like the Big XII. If there's no redistribution process, then the conference hangs on to the money for its own operation purposes.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

In Memphis' case, they have to return the money to the conference, who will probably redistribute it to the other schools, if they're anything like the Big XII. If there's no redistribution process, then the conference hangs on to the money for its own operation purposes.

At least the NCAA doesn't get it....like the EU does when it fines US companies....let see here, our coffers are running low so lets find someone with some cash to find guiltly and fine for enough money to send us all on a nice holiday.

[Johnny Ringo]

And Plaxico Buress got two years for shooting himslef ... go figure.

[dsturdy5]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. You can't tell me he did and know you're right.

There are a lot of people on those planes, lots of boosters and university staff, and I doubt the coach is the one checking who is on it aside from checking that he's got his players.

Ok, so maybe Cal didn't know but someone from the program/university had to know and the fact that they are associated with the excess benefits makes the penalty of vacating games a reasonable one IMO.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

And Plaxico Buress got two years for shooting himslef ... go figure.

There is no legal penalty for shooting yourself.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by dsturdy5

Ok, so maybe Cal didn't know but someone from the program/university had to know and the fact that they are associated with the excess benefits makes the penalty of vacating games a reasonable one IMO.

How do you figure that? There is NO evidence that anyone from the university knew anything aside from the SAT organization saying he passed and the NCAA clearinghouse saying the score was valid....until 2 years later.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

In Memphis' case, they have to return the money to the conference, who will probably redistribute it to the other schools, if they're anything like the Big XII. If there's no redistribution process, then the conference hangs on to the money for its own operation purposes.

That isn't proper either. Why should schools from Conference USA benefit when one of its members engaged in improper action? That money should go to the OTHER conferences and schools who were in the Final Four that season.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

There is no legal penalty for shooting yourself.

Unless it draws attention to the fact that you were carrying a weapon illegally in a NY nightclub. He's lucky he didn't damage the jewells.