Fed vs NCAA Womens rules differences

[love2refbball]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

(Women) In (1) and (2), when the officials signal simultaneously,
they shall get together and agree to give the call to the official who
had the play originate in his/her primary. When the officials disagree
that the fouls occurred simultaneously, they shall determine which
foul occurred first. Once a decision is reached, that foul is reported to
the official scorer and the appropriate penalty is assessed.
(Rule 4-9, 4-10, 4-29 and 4-35.1)

Thank you!! I had a supervisor (W-NCAA) a couple yrs ago that talked about the blarge in the womens' game, and I know of a specific situation that happened last yr with some DI officials where they had a blarge and went with the double foul. I obviously need to get the rule book back out and start studying. Do you happen to know if this is a recent change?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by love2refbball

Thank you!! I had a supervisor (W-NCAA) a couple yrs ago that talked about the blarge in the womens' game, and I know of a specific situation that happened last yr with some DI officials where they had a blarge and went with the double foul. I obviously need to get the rule book back out and start studying. Do you happen to know if this is a recent change?

I really don't know if it's a recent change or not - it's been there for at least a few years since I noticed the difference between it and the Fed. interp. of going with the double foul. Maybe someone else knows?

I'm still not honestly sure which method I like best. A "blarge" usually happens because the officials haven't done their job properly - maybe it's an official calling outside their area, or both officials giving a preliminary signal during the double whistle without making eye contact first and allowing one official to take the call. In NCAA-W, we end up making the "proper" call because we go with the primary official's call, but one coach will feel screwed because they think the call that favored their team is somhow being over-ruled or ignored. In Fed., both coaches get appeased somewhat because both fouls are penalized, but it still goes against basic rules principles (how can you have both a charge and a block on the same play?). Either way, the officials' mistake has caused the issue, so it's best to avoid the blarge altogether.

[IREFU2]

The coverage is different as well.

[Back In The Saddle]

Timeouts are different as well. Number, length, and media timeouts.

There is a good chart of the differences in the back of the NCAA rule book. I prefer it to the NFHS one. It's available online, here: http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uplo...e85513c6e6.pdf and is in Appending V on page 157.

[PIAA REF]

I think the hardest thing for me with doing high school and College women is when lead officiating the short corner beyond 3Pt area. This change in coverage is just hard for me to remember, I have to keep talking to myself about it. Also remembering that I have 3pt signal attempt from foul line extended down also is a big difference to me.

I do however love being able to bounce the player the ball when new trail when ball is to be taken out on opposite side as me on the baseline.

I actually like most of the college women's mechanics, I think the flow of the came is able to stay at a great pace for most games.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

I think the hardest thing for me with doing high school and College women is when lead officiating the short corner beyond 3Pt area. This change in coverage is just hard for me to remember, I have to keep talking to myself about it. Also remembering that I have 3pt signal attempt from foul line extended down also is a big difference to me.

I do however love being able to bounce the player the ball when new trail when ball is to be taken out on opposite side as me on the baseline.

I actually like most of the college women's mechanics, I think the flow of the came is able to stay at a great pace for most games.

I totally know how you feel. The backcourt count usually screws me up and some times in my NCAA-W game, I will feel the urge to do it or in my High School game, I forget to do it. Is there any end to the madness?

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by love2refbball

Really??? do you have a rule reference for this???

Its in the CCA Manual.