Fed vs NCAA Womens rules differences

[justacoach]

No. 1 son will be doing women's college games this season. Aside from closely guarded and shot clock, what are thr main differences vis-a-vis Fed???

TIA

[BillyMac]

Where the rulebook says, "He/She", change it to, "She". Where the rulebook says, "Him/Her", change it to, "Her".

Sorry. I'm just being a wise guy. If I didn't do it, we all know that Mark Padgett would do it eventually. I'm sure that somebody will be along in a few minutes to give you what you're looking for. I'm just an NFHS guy.

[kda89508]

You can find most of the differences towards the back of the NFHS Basketball Rule Book. They have a nice chart that gives the major differences. Good Luck! Kevin

Originally Posted by kda89508

You can find most of the differences towards the back of the NFHS Basketball Rule Book. They have a nice chart that gives the major differences. Good Luck! Kevin

That's true, but I wouldn't just go with that info ONLY, as it is NOT specific about everything. Seriously recommend picking up the CCA Womens book.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

That's true, but I wouldn't just go with that info ONLY, as it is NOT specific about everything. Seriously recommend picking up the CCA Womens book.

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I'm thinking No. 1 son already has one or will be getting one when it's available since he is working NCAA-W games this season.

I think the OP wants a quick reference list for a bystander.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

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I'm thinking No. 1 son already has one or will be getting one when it's available since he is working NCAA-W games this season.

I think the OP wants a quick reference list for a bystander.

That's cool, I was just saying not to take what the HS rulebook differences page says as gospel. I heard about a guy that did that & he doesn't need to know the differences anymore... if you know what I mean.

But to answer the question as best as I can:

No b/c count
c/g only when holding the ball
35 second shot clock
L has the corner & also pops the whistle prior to administering all throw-ins (sideline below the FT line too)
T chops on all throw-ins
Some excellent signals that describes what happened ie: hit to the head, tripping, etc.

That's all I can think of now.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm thinking No. 1 son already has one or will be getting one when it's available since he is working NCAA-W games this season.

Confucius say, "No man is poor who has worthy son." (Charlie Chan At The Race Track, 1936)

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by justacoach

No. 1 son will be doing women's college games this season. Aside from closely guarded and shot clock, what are thr main differences vis-a-vis Fed???

TIA

There is also no ten-second count in the backcourt.

Other than way that technical fouls work at the NCAA level, there aren't many differences in the NCAAW rules and the NFHS rules.
The biggest transition will be to the signals and mechanics. Even the PCAs are different.

One other rule difference which jumps out to me is that a blarge does not result in a double foul. The officials get together and go with the call made from the primary official.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is also no ten-second count in the backcourt.

Other than way that technical fouls work at the NCAA level, there aren't many differences in the NCAAW rules and the NFHS rules.
The biggest transition will be to the signals and mechanics. Even the PCAs are different.

One other rule difference which jumps out to me is that a blarge does not result in a double foul. The officials get together and go with the call made from the primary official.

Thanks, Nevada:

Could you expand on TF and IF administration and note anything that varies between NCAA-W and NCAA-M in these aspects?

Appreciatively...

[Nevadaref]

Intentional fouls are the same as NFHS.

TFs are more complicated at the NCAA level because ones given for unsporting behavior are administered right away and then the game resumes at the POI.

It is easier to compare NCAAW TFs to NFHS TFs, than to note the differences with the mens side. The men also use different terminology. (Class A and Class B, instead of direct and indirect)

I need to get some dinner, but I'll come back later and write a little more on this topic.

[David]

Blood on uniform.
NF - timeout required to stay in game.
NCAAW - 20 seconds is allowed to resolve issue before a timeout is required.

Free throw positions and restrictions.
NF - enter lane when the ball hits rim or backboard or clearly misses. Except for the two defenders in the bottom blocks, players may slide to unoccupied spots.
NCAAW - enter lane when the shot is released. Neither offense nor defense can occupy positions designated for the other team.

Granting timeouts.
NF - anytime there is player control.
NCAAW - not allowed when an airborne player’s momentum is carrying her out of bounds or into the backcourt.

Technical foul shooters.
NF - can switch shooters between each shot of a 2-shot technical foul.
NCAAW - the same shooter must shoot both shots.

Throwin location.
NF - after a technical foul that is not a double foul, ball is put in play at the division line opposite the table.
NCAAW - after a flagrant technical foul, ball is put in play at the division line on either side of the court. After an excessive timeout, ball is put in play at point of interruption by the other team (loss of possession).

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by David

Blood on uniform.
NF - timeout required to stay in game.
NCAAW - 20 seconds is allowed to resolve issue before a timeout is required.

Free throw positions and restrictions.
NF - enter lane when the ball hits rim or backboard or clearly misses. Except for the two defenders in the bottom blocks, players may slide to unoccupied spots.
NCAAW - enter lane when the shot is released. Neither offense nor defense can occupy positions designated for the other team.

Granting timeouts.
NF - anytime there is player control.
NCAAW - not allowed when an airborne player’s momentum is carrying her out of bounds or into the backcourt.

Technical foul shooters.
NF - can switch shooters between each shot of a 2-shot technical foul.
NCAAW - the same shooter must shoot both shots.

Throwin location.
NF - after a technical foul that is not a double foul, ball is put in play at the division line opposite the table.
NCAAW - after a flagrant technical foul, ball is put in play at the division line on either side of the court. After an excessive timeout, ball is put in play at point of interruption by the other team (loss of possession).

Hello, David:

Appreciate you delving into the more esoteric differences.
As to FT administation, do the NFHS 'Let it hit' dictates apply to other players not in marked lane spaces?

Thanks

[VACaller]

Originally Posted by David

Blood on uniform.
NF - timeout required to stay in game.
NCAAW - 20 seconds is allowed to resolve issue before a timeout is required.

Free throw positions and restrictions.
NF - enter lane when the ball hits rim or backboard or clearly misses. [I]Except for the two defenders in the bottom blocks, players may slide to unoccupied spots.[/I]NCAAW - enter lane when the shot is released. Neither offense nor defense can occupy positions designated for the other team.

Granting timeouts.
NF - anytime there is player control.
NCAAW - not allowed when an airborne player’s momentum is carrying her out of bounds or into the backcourt.

Technical foul shooters.
NF - can switch shooters between each shot of a 2-shot technical foul.
NCAAW - the same shooter must shoot both shots.

Throwin location.
NF - after a technical foul that is not a double foul, ball is put in play at the division line opposite the table.
NCAAW - after a flagrant technical foul, ball is put in play at the division line on either side of the court. After an excessive timeout, ball is put in play at point of interruption by the other team (loss of possession).

Just to clarify...NF F/T rules don't allow opponents to occupy each other's vacant spots. I think R. 8, A. 4. f. may confuse some, but it states "within the limitations in this rule". So that means Player A2 can move to a vacant spot that his team can legally occupy, not into a team B spot.

[love2refbball]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is also no ten-second count in the backcourt.

Other than way that technical fouls work at the NCAA level, there aren't many differences in the NCAAW rules and the NFHS rules.
The biggest transition will be to the signals and mechanics. Even the PCAs are different.

One other rule difference which jumps out to me is that a blarge does not result in a double foul. The officials get together and go with the call made from the primary official.

Really??? do you have a rule reference for this???

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by love2refbball

Really??? do you have a rule reference for this???

NCAA A.R.172.
A1 drives to the basket and:
(1) The referee calls a player-control foul and an umpire calls a
block; or
(2) The referee calls a charge and an umpire calls a block.
RULING: This is uncharacteristic of a double personal foul where
one official adjudicates the obviously committed fouls against two op
ponents. (Men) In (1) and (2), the two officials disagree that the fouls
occurred simultaneously. In (1), the ball shall be awarded to Team A,
the team in control, at the point of interruption with no reset of the
shot clock.
(Rule 2-11.7.f, 7-4.1.d and 7-5.8)
In (2), the two officials disagree as to whether there was a charge
or a block, however, the ball was released by A1. Although there is
no team control while a ball is in flight, when the goal is successful,
play shall resume at the point of interruption by awarding the ball to
Team B, the team not credited with the score, at the end line with the
privilege to run the end line. When the try is not successful, play shall
resume at the point of interruption with the use of the alternating
possession arrow and a reset of the shot clock. (Rule 7-5.9)
(Women) In (1) and (2), when the officials signal simultaneously,
they shall get together and agree to give the call to the official who
had the play originate in his/her primary. When the officials disagree
that the fouls occurred simultaneously, they shall determine which
foul occurred first. Once a decision is reached, that foul is reported to
the official scorer and the appropriate penalty is assessed.
(Rule 4-9, 4-10, 4-29 and 4-35.1)