Fed vs NCAA Womens rules differences

[love2refbball]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is also no ten-second count in the backcourt.

Other than way that technical fouls work at the NCAA level, there aren't many differences in the NCAAW rules and the NFHS rules.
The biggest transition will be to the signals and mechanics. Even the PCAs are different.

One other rule difference which jumps out to me is that a blarge does not result in a double foul. The officials get together and go with the call made from the primary official.

Really??? do you have a rule reference for this???

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by love2refbball

Really??? do you have a rule reference for this???

NCAA A.R.172.
A1 drives to the basket and:
(1) The referee calls a player-control foul and an umpire calls a
block; or
(2) The referee calls a charge and an umpire calls a block.
RULING: This is uncharacteristic of a double personal foul where
one official adjudicates the obviously committed fouls against two op
ponents. (Men) In (1) and (2), the two officials disagree that the fouls
occurred simultaneously. In (1), the ball shall be awarded to Team A,
the team in control, at the point of interruption with no reset of the
shot clock.
(Rule 2-11.7.f, 7-4.1.d and 7-5.8)
In (2), the two officials disagree as to whether there was a charge
or a block, however, the ball was released by A1. Although there is
no team control while a ball is in flight, when the goal is successful,
play shall resume at the point of interruption by awarding the ball to
Team B, the team not credited with the score, at the end line with the
privilege to run the end line. When the try is not successful, play shall
resume at the point of interruption with the use of the alternating
possession arrow and a reset of the shot clock. (Rule 7-5.9)
(Women) In (1) and (2), when the officials signal simultaneously,
they shall get together and agree to give the call to the official who
had the play originate in his/her primary. When the officials disagree
that the fouls occurred simultaneously, they shall determine which
foul occurred first. Once a decision is reached, that foul is reported to
the official scorer and the appropriate penalty is assessed.
(Rule 4-9, 4-10, 4-29 and 4-35.1)

[love2refbball]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

(Women) In (1) and (2), when the officials signal simultaneously,
they shall get together and agree to give the call to the official who
had the play originate in his/her primary. When the officials disagree
that the fouls occurred simultaneously, they shall determine which
foul occurred first. Once a decision is reached, that foul is reported to
the official scorer and the appropriate penalty is assessed.
(Rule 4-9, 4-10, 4-29 and 4-35.1)

Thank you!! I had a supervisor (W-NCAA) a couple yrs ago that talked about the blarge in the womens' game, and I know of a specific situation that happened last yr with some DI officials where they had a blarge and went with the double foul. I obviously need to get the rule book back out and start studying. Do you happen to know if this is a recent change?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by love2refbball

Thank you!! I had a supervisor (W-NCAA) a couple yrs ago that talked about the blarge in the womens' game, and I know of a specific situation that happened last yr with some DI officials where they had a blarge and went with the double foul. I obviously need to get the rule book back out and start studying. Do you happen to know if this is a recent change?

I really don't know if it's a recent change or not - it's been there for at least a few years since I noticed the difference between it and the Fed. interp. of going with the double foul. Maybe someone else knows?

I'm still not honestly sure which method I like best. A "blarge" usually happens because the officials haven't done their job properly - maybe it's an official calling outside their area, or both officials giving a preliminary signal during the double whistle without making eye contact first and allowing one official to take the call. In NCAA-W, we end up making the "proper" call because we go with the primary official's call, but one coach will feel screwed because they think the call that favored their team is somhow being over-ruled or ignored. In Fed., both coaches get appeased somewhat because both fouls are penalized, but it still goes against basic rules principles (how can you have both a charge and a block on the same play?). Either way, the officials' mistake has caused the issue, so it's best to avoid the blarge altogether.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by love2refbball

Really??? do you have a rule reference for this???

Its in the CCA Manual.