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Old Thu Jul 23, 2009, 10:35pm
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Although cultures have used hours to denote the passage of time for hundreds of years, the "second" is considered to be a metric unit. I once asked one of my college professors why. He said because the International Bureau of Weights and Measures says so.

Of course, that organization is located in France.
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Old Fri Jul 24, 2009, 07:46am
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Although cultures have used hours to denote the passage of time for hundreds of years, the "second" is considered to be a metric unit.
It is also an English unit (foot-pound-second).

And the French don't define it, nature does. The second is the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium 133 atom.
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Mbyron, Are you in the quality or metrology fields?
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Old Fri Jul 24, 2009, 08:32am
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... The second is the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium 133 atom.
If that is the measurement of a second how could it have been scientifically defined prior to the 20th Century?

And why is that the measurement?
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Old Fri Jul 24, 2009, 08:49am
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If that is the measurement of a second how could it have been scientifically defined prior to the 20th Century?

And why is that the measurement?
1. Prior to the development of chronometers capable of measuring microseconds, the sidereal second was sufficiently precise.

2. It matches a sidereal second pretty closely. If you're asking why cesium 133, I don't know the answer to that one. Sorry!
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1. Prior to the development of chronometers capable of measuring microseconds, the sidereal second was sufficiently precise.

2. It matches a sidereal second pretty closely. If you're asking why cesium 133, I don't know the answer to that one. Sorry!
2 is easy. cesium 132 wasn't quite long enough, and cesium 134 was too long.
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2 is easy. cesium 132 wasn't quite long enough, and cesium 134 was too long.
Finally something that makes sense in this silly thread.
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1. Prior to the development of chronometers capable of measuring microseconds, the sidereal second was sufficiently precise.

2. It matches a sidereal second pretty closely. If you're asking why cesium 133, I don't know the answer to that one. Sorry!


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Actually, Doane's fifth game of the season, Nebraska-Omaha's season opener after an exhibition against Iowa State.
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Actually, Doane's fifth game of the season, Nebraska-Omaha's season opener after an exhibition against Iowa State.

And, since N-O is the home team, it's probably the first day D-II schools are allowed to have a contest.
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It is also an English unit (foot-pound-second).

And the French don't define it, nature does. The second is the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium 133 atom.
Is that your standard response to coaches clamoring for a '3 second call'?
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Is that your standard response to coaches clamoring for a '3 second call'?
Yeah: "not enough Cs 133 periods, coach."
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Old Fri Jul 24, 2009, 11:33am
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Is that your standard response to coaches clamoring for a '3 second call'?
My standard response is, "Coach, that wasn't three seconds even in dog years."

BTW - are dog years metric? I hope not. WOOF.
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BTW - I guess based on FEEBLE rules, trapezoids are metric.
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