Closely Guarded Dilemma

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Well, crap, you're right - there goes one of my arguments. Maybe I should just stay out of this. Well, ok, maybe not.

Does this section then provide the basis for not counting in the OP? Since the defender trailed the dribbler, was the dribbler's head and shoulders past the defender, and thus the count ends?

Well, I think "on a drive to the basket" is clearly the intent of the rule, otherwise all a dribbler would have to do to end the count would be start heading towards the division line.

If I'm defending a dribbler, and he's heading towards a sideline or the division line, I'm likely to let him and just shadow him that direction.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Well, I think "on a drive to the basket" is clearly the intent of the rule, otherwise all a dribbler would have to do to end the count would be start heading towards the division line.

And if they manage to get more than 6 feet away from the defender, they would be successful in stopping the count.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

And if they manage to get more than 6 feet away from the defender, they would be successful in stopping the count.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

there wasn't nearly enough name calling here

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Thank you Captain Obvious.

there wasn't nearly enough name calling here

I feel better now.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Well, I think "on a drive to the basket" is clearly the intent of the rule, otherwise all a dribbler would have to do to end the count would be start heading towards the division line.

If I'm defending a dribbler, and he's heading towards a sideline or the division line, I'm likely to let him and just shadow him that direction.

While that may be the primary intent, I don't think it is the only intent.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

While that may be the primary intent, I don't think it is the only intent.

I'll agree there are other situations, but I think the large majority of them involve at least advancing the ball towards the basket.