Sports Illustrated Kids situation - what's the call?

[rockyroad]

"On" the line is oob...this is not a violation. Had an official in my son's JV game keep calling violations (on both teams) for stepping on the line to throw the ball in. After about 5 or 6 of these calls, both coaches requested a conference with the two officials and asked why he was calling that. The other official tried to tell him he was wrong, but he wouldn't listen...so both coaches told their players to adjust and away we went...weird, but livable.

Hey at least the official was consistent
Isn't that what we strive for?? j/k

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Hey at least the official was consistent
Isn't that what we strive for?? j/k

A quote about hobgoblins comes to mind.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

A quote about hobgoblins comes to mind.

Thanks, Ralph.

And: you never said which kind was foolish.

[grunewar]

Rule 4, Section XII-Throw-In

A throw-in is a method of putting the ball in play from out-of-bounds in accordance with Rule 8-Section III. The throw-in begins when the ball is at the disposal of the team or player entitled to it, and ends when the ball is released by the thrower-in.

Rule 8 Out of Bounds Section III-The Throw-In

a. The throw-in starts when the ball is at the disposal of a player entitled to the throw-in. He shall release the ball inbounds within 5 seconds from the time the throw-in starts. Until the passed ball has crossed the plane of the boundary, no player shall have any part of his person over the boundary line and teammates shall not occupy positions parallel or adjacent to the baseline if an opponent desires one of those positions. The defensive man shall have the right to be between his man and the basket.

Rule 10, Section IV – Thrower-in

a. A thrower-in shall not (1) carry the ball onto the court; (2) fail to release the ball within 5 seconds; (3) touch it on the court before it has touched another player; (4) leave the designated throw-in spot; (5) throw the ball so that it enters the basket before touching anyone on the court; (6) step over the boundary line while inbounding the ball; (7) cause the ball to go out-of-bounds without being touched inbounds; (8) leave the playing surface to gain an advantage on a throw-in; (9) hand the ball to a player on the court. EXCEPTION: After a field goal or free throw as a result of a personal foul, the thrower-in may run the end line or pass to a teammate behind the end line.

b. Once an official recognizes the designated player to throw the ball in, there shall be no change of the thrower-in unless the offensive team makes a substitution, there is a regular or 20-second timeout or a suspension of play.
PENALTY: Loss of ball. The ball is awarded to the opposing team at the original spot of the throw-in.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

"On" the line is oob...this is not a violation. Had an official in my son's JV game keep calling violations (on both teams) for stepping on the line to throw the ball in. After about 5 or 6 of these calls, both coaches requested a conference with the two officials and asked why he was calling that. The other official tried to tell him he was wrong, but he wouldn't listen...so both coaches told their players to adjust and away we went...weird, but livable.

Yet another instance of you pointing out the errors of other officials.

Obviously, you operate by a double standard in that it's okay for you to criticize others, but when anyone else does it you immediately jump on them.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Yet another instance of you pointing out the errors of other officials.

Obviously, you operate by a double standard in that it's okay for you to criticize others, but when anyone else does it you immediately jump on them.

hmmm. looking for a word.... got it.

gratuitous

[BillyMac]

A player inbounding the ball may step on, but not over the line. During a designated spot throwin, the player inbounding the ball must keep one foot on or over the three-foot wide designated spot. An inbounding player is allowed to jump or move one or both feet. A player inbounding the ball may move backward as far as the five-second time limit or space allows. If player moves outside the three-foot wide designated spot it is a violation, not travelling. In gymnasiums with limited space outside the sidelines and endlines, a defensive player may be asked to step back no more than three feet. A player inbounding the ball may bounce the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throwin. After a goal, or awarded goal, the team not credited with the score shall make the throw-in from any point outside the end line. A team retains this “run the endline” privilege if a timeout is called during the dead ball period after the goal. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate outside the boundary line.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Yet another instance of you pointing out the errors of other officials.

Obviously, you operate by a double standard in that it's okay for you to criticize others, but when anyone else does it you immediately jump on them.

Not true, and you know it.

I have never once had a problem with anyone - including you - pointing out an error that was made by an official. I make plenty of errors, and point those out also. The difference between you and I is that I made no judgment about the PERSON involved in the situation I shared. No comments about him being a coward, or being so fat he can't get up the court, etc., etc...that's the difference between pointing out a mistake and pointing out the person. But I think most of us already knew that.

[amusedofficial]

I, too, flip to the You Make The Call section of SI Kids when it arrives. I told the kids how the ruling in the mag was flat-out wrong of they meant ON the line but not OVER the line and got the rolling eyes and the "you think you know everything about the rules" line.

So thanks for the ammunition as I reclaim my place of glory in my own home.

[amusedofficial]

I just noticed a honey-do list on the refrigerator. Pay no attention to remarks relative to glory, own home, etc. etc. etc.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

The difference between you and I is ...

As long as we're pointing out mistakes...

Originally Posted by rockyroad

that's the difference between pointing out a mistake and pointing out the person. [redacted].

You realize that this (redacted) remark undercuts your point (which is otherwise well-taken, btw).

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by mbyron

As long as we're pointing out mistakes...



You realize that this remark undercuts your point (which is otherwise well-taken, btw).

Touche.

Taken care of.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Touche.

Taken care of.

No point leaving it in my post...