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Old Tue May 26, 2009, 04:33pm
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That's ok, MTD. At your age you are allowed an occasional forgetful moment.

As for the Ancient Days... is that when the penalty involved a few lashings?
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Old Tue May 26, 2009, 04:45pm
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That's ok, MTD. At your age you are allowed an occasional forgetful moment.

As for the Ancient Days... is that when the penalty involved a few lashings?

No, but when the ball went out of bounds the first player to get to the ball got to make the throw-in.

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Old Tue May 26, 2009, 04:59pm
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No, but when the ball went out of bounds the first player to get to the ball got to make the throw-in.
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That's why we made them play in cages, hence the term "cagers". There was one supplier in my town that sold cages and peach baskets. He really made some good money back then. However, whenever one of the laces on the basketball ripped, we had to get those from someone else.
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Old Tue May 26, 2009, 09:27pm
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That's why we made them play in cages, hence the term "cagers". There was one supplier in my town that sold cages and peach baskets. He really made some good money back then. However, whenever one of the laces on the basketball ripped, we had to get those from someone else.

Mark:

I have seen pictures of games played with basketball that were secure with laces.

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Old Wed May 27, 2009, 06:35am
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Maybe Mathew B. Brady Cropped The Photo ???

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I have seen pictures of games played with basketballs that were secured with laces.


Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Obviously, somebody cropped you out of the photo. I know that Dr. Naismith, or, "Jimmy", as you called him, was your regular partner, since, back then, you were the only two people, in the whole world, who knew the rules.
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 03:46pm
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Calling a "simultaneous foul" here will do nothing other than make both coaches mad at you
Frankly, this is just dumb. For one thing, its clear what the rule is. For another, they aren't going to get mad unless you are TRYING to fit some situation into a rule that doesn't belong there, OR, are injecting yourself into the flow of the game for no good reason. Finally, who the hell cares? If you referee by trying to keep coaches from getting mad at you, you can't be very good.

In this case, a clear foul was called by one official, and the other one comes in and says he too has a foul. One official reports both fouls (I would suggest this for simplicity sakes. Probably the worst thing that will happen is one or both coaches has the palms up wanting an explanation, which is easy: "Coach, I had a foul against number __ and he had a foul at the same time against ___. By rule, this is a simultaneous foul and we go to the POI."

The coach(es) may ask about picking one or the other, but just say, "no, this is clearly covered in the rules."
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 05:37pm
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Frankly, this is just dumb. For one thing, its clear what the rule is. For another, they aren't going to get mad unless you are TRYING to fit some situation into a rule that doesn't belong there, OR, are injecting yourself into the flow of the game for no good reason. Finally, who the hell cares? If you referee by trying to keep coaches from getting mad at you, you can't be very good.

In this case, a clear foul was called by one official, and the other one comes in and says he too has a foul. One official reports both fouls (I would suggest this for simplicity sakes. Probably the worst thing that will happen is one or both coaches has the palms up wanting an explanation, which is easy: "Coach, I had a foul against number __ and he had a foul at the same time against ___. By rule, this is a simultaneous foul and we go to the POI."

The coach(es) may ask about picking one or the other, but just say, "no, this is clearly covered in the rules."


However, you will be surprised at number of officials who will make any excuse to not call something out of the ordinary, even when it would be the proper call. I guess that it makes them too uncomfortable or that they fear a negative reaction from the coaches.
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