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Old Mon May 25, 2009, 12:18pm
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Never mark as lead? Since when does lead not have a three-point arc coverage. In three person mechanics you may be right but in two person mechanics the lead has corner to FT line extended on the one side, and by book should mark and signal if it is good with Trail mirroring.


Even in three man I would never say never... If you have a fast transition, lead mya have best look at a quick three since C is oppositeand trail may be way out of play ...
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Old Mon May 25, 2009, 09:53pm
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Never mark as lead? Since when does lead not have a three-point arc coverage. In three person mechanics you may be right but in two person mechanics the lead has corner to FT line extended on the one side, and by book should mark and signal if it is good with Trail mirroring.


Even in three man I would never say never... If you have a fast transition, lead mya have best look at a quick three since C is oppositeand trail may be way out of play ...
My bad. I was talking about 3-man only. I totally agree with you for 2-man.

You're right about transition. If I'm Lead and I know that the Trail doesn't see it, I'll mark the try and let him give the touchdown signal if good. That's the only time though.
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Old Sun Jun 07, 2009, 09:37am
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2-man free throw positioning

Worked by first 2-man games with the new mechanic. I absolutely hate it more than any mechanic I've encountered in my 7 1/2 years of officiating.
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Old Sun Jun 07, 2009, 07:50pm
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Worked by first 2-man games with the new mechanic. I absolutely hate it more than any mechanic I've encountered in my 7 1/2 years of officiating.
Why?

Because you can't remember where to go?
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Old Sun Jun 07, 2009, 09:25pm
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Why?

Because you can't remember where to go?
Actually that wasn't a problem. Forgetting that I was responsible for the free throw shooter was. I constantly started way too high then realized I needed to get down in position. My partners for the most part never did come done to properly monitor the shooter. Also I don't like that neither official has a view of the benches and table.
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Old Sun Jun 07, 2009, 10:01pm
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Actually that wasn't a problem. Forgetting that I was responsible for the free throw shooter was. I constantly started way too high then realized I needed to get down in position. My partners for the most part never did come done to properly monitor the shooter. Also I don't like that neither official has a view of the benches and table.
I don't understand how being tableside would move you up higher than being opposite. Were you forgetting that you were working 2-man and thinking that you were the Trail in a 3-man system because you were standing tableside?

If that's the case, then I don't see this as a problem with the mechanic, but rather with the mental focus of an old dog learning a new trick.

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Old Mon Jun 08, 2009, 12:09am
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I worked a camp last week with the new 2-man mechanics. I didn't have much of a problem with it, but a lot of the other guys that were there did.

The bad thing was that we did some 3-man work as well, and several people couldn't remember which side to go to as Lead on FTs because of the change in 2-man.
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Old Sun Jun 07, 2009, 08:23pm
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Worked by first 2-man games with the new mechanic. I absolutely hate it more than any mechanic I've encountered in my 7 1/2 years of officiating.
I worked it this weekend for the first time. I didn't notice much of a difference - except in the L. I had to change my personal mechanics due to being opposite the table. I'll get over it, relearn, and move on.
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