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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 04:31pm
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Talking New mechanics changes for High school Basketball!

How about these at the bottom of the page? http://www.nfhs.org/core/contentmana...es_Changes.pdf THANKS! Kevin
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 04:38pm
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Why are they reversing whow free throws are administered in 2 man? Is the trail getting winded going opposite tableside?
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Mirroring chopping the clock? eww
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Mirroring chopping the clock? eww
Aren't we supposed to be watching the players in our area?
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 04:48pm
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No they are on the website!

I sure would not have typed these in. You were still on table side in high school 3 man last year but I dont agree with these changes. Kevin
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I sure would not have typed these in. You were still on table side in high school 3 man last year but I dont agree with these changes. Kevin
Calling official went opposite table in 3 man for last season.
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So if the trail calls a foul in the forecourt and there are shots there is no switch? And after they moved the calling official away from the table this past season they want the calling official near the bench in a crew of two? I noticed that it says 2009-11 for mechanics changes. Did you type these yourself? [No I have not gone to the Fed website yet]
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 07:11pm
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So if the trail calls a foul in the forecourt and there are shots there is no switch? And after they moved the calling official away from the table this past season they want the calling official near the bench in a crew of two? I noticed that it says 2009-11 for mechanics changes. Did you type these yourself? [No I have not gone to the Fed website yet]
That rule was only in NCAA Mens not in High School unless your state did something different. Kevin
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 07:35pm
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That rule was only in NCAA Mens not in High School unless your state did something different. Kevin
I am asking my old interpreter. It COULD be an IAABO mechanic. Which is mostly in the Northeast.
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I am asking my old interpreter. It COULD be an IAABO mechanic. Which is mostly in the Northeast.
Correct, the calling official goes opposite table was a new IAABO mechanic for 08-09 ie: NCAA-M. Our association decided to stay tableside ie: NCAA-W. Much to my dismay, next season we will go opposite in 3 person. I really like staying tableside as it makes communication with coaches/table easier. I don't like being questioned about my partners call just because I'm the closest & I don't like coaches hollaring across my court...

T chops is good, I like that mechanic!
It looks as though HS tries to adapt the best NCAA mechanics from both sides. Must be a challenge for those of you who work both levels.

As far as 2 person goes, having the calling official become tableside T on FTs is cool, but administering the FTs at L & going opposite??? How confusing is THAT going to be working back & forth from 2 - 3 person night to night?? Not sure about that one, but here's an idea. How about no more 2 person, period!!
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 08:48pm
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So if the trail calls a foul in the forecourt and there are shots there is no switch?
I am not sure if this was intended, but as written, this would be the implication.
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Who will have the count on free throws now in 2 man? if the trail is at the 28 foot line on the 2nd freethrow and the lead is opposite of the table now, who is watching the free throw shooter? in 3 man I always seem a little out of the loop on freethrows when I am trail on the table side. Just wondering how this is going to work on 2 man, will the trail have to be at about 17 or 18 feet like we were across from the table? if not its going to have to be a serious closedown to get position to watch on rebounding action.
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Who will have the count on free throws now in 2 man? if the trail is at the 28 foot line on the 2nd freethrow and the lead is opposite of the table now, who is watching the free throw shooter? in 3 man I always seem a little out of the loop on freethrows when I am trail on the table side. Just wondering how this is going to work on 2 man, will the trail have to be at about 17 or 18 feet like we were across from the table? if not its going to have to be a serious closedown to get position to watch on rebounding action.
I do not think anything fundamental has changed in the coverage, the Trail is just table side. At least that is my take.
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 09:21pm
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I do not think anything fundamental has changed in the coverage, the Trail is just table side. At least that is my take.
For those who officiated in the 80s and early 90s, it's no big deal -- back then we always put the trail "on the left".

I wonder how this is going to play out -- will we switch depending on whether we're shooting or not? If so, this change is horrible. Just have the calling official become the trail all the time - whether tableside or not. Now, if it's the sixth foul we have to switch but if it's the seventh we don't? Silly. Just silly.
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For those who officiated in the 80s and early 90s, it's no big deal -- back then we always put the trail "on the left".

I wonder how this is going to play out -- will we switch depending on whether we're shooting or not? If so, this change is horrible. Just have the calling official become the trail all the time - whether tableside or not. Now, if it's the sixth foul we have to switch but if it's the seventh we don't? Silly. Just silly.
You're showing your age again!

As I read it, the two officials will continue to switch on all fouls as normal, except if it is a shooting foul and in that case the calling official always takes the Trail position.
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