New mechanics changes for High school Basketball!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You're showing your age again!

As I read it, the two officials will continue to switch on all fouls as normal, except if it is a shooting foul and in that case the calling official always takes the Trail position.

I just started young. I'm still south of 40. I won't be when I work my next game, though.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

For those who officiated in the 80s and early 90s, it's no big deal, back then we always put the trail "on the left".

I thought I was the only one who remembered doing that?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I thought I was the only one who remembered doing that?

When I first started working middle school games while in college, we did this.
by the time I started back up again a few years later, it was gone along with players entering the lane on the release.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

For those who officiated in the 80s and early 90s, it's no big deal -- back then we always put the trail "on the left".

I wonder how this is going to play out -- will we switch depending on whether we're shooting or not? If so, this change is horrible. Just have the calling official become the trail all the time - whether tableside or not. Now, if it's the sixth foul we have to switch but if it's the seventh we don't? Silly. Just silly.

You can't go tableside all the time because where the ball is being put back in play will dictate which side of the court you will be on with only two referees.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

You can't go tableside all the time because where the ball is being put back in play will dictate which side of the court you will be on with only two referees.

I know that.

My point is this -- I'm the trail tableside and I call a shooting foul. I stay trail, tableside (just as in 3-person).

If it's a non-shooting foul, I'm now expected to switch and become the L?

It's inconsistent and silly, but I expect that these days. At least I'll feel less guilty when I don't long switch going long 2-person next year since the whole "switch on every foul" mantra has just gone out the window.

[TrojanHorse]

From a coaching standpoint, I really liked the official on the table side. It really made it easy to as a quick question. I could ask and get an answer without a delay for the official to run to the other side. Here in Texas as already stated, the officials just closed down on the free throws. Looked the same to me. And if the official wanted to get away from the coach, he/she just walked 7-10 feet onto the court and take a different angle. Seemed much more convenient for all involved.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Just have the calling official become the trail all the time - whether tableside or not.

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

You can't go tableside all the time because where the ball is being put back in play will dictate which side of the court you will be on with only two referees.

And it wouldn't make sense for the calling official to always become the T (unless FTs are involved) because there would be no switch if the calling official is the T.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

And it wouldn't make sense for the calling official to always become the T (unless FTs are involved) because there would be no switch if the calling official is the T.

Who cares that there's no switch? We don't switch at all in 3-person if the calling official is the tableside trail.

[CLH]

Originally Posted by 181174

Who will have the count on free throws now in 2 man? if the trail is at the 28 foot line on the 2nd freethrow and the lead is opposite of the table now, who is watching the free throw shooter? in 3 man I always seem a little out of the loop on freethrows when I am trail on the table side. Just wondering how this is going to work on 2 man, will the trail have to be at about 17 or 18 feet like we were across from the table? if not its going to have to be a serious closedown to get position to watch on rebounding action.

Dude this is not that difficult, there is nothing changing about the coverage areas, just flip the little lines over on your pre-game board. You cover it the exact same as you would if you were opposite the table. This has been going on in Texas now for several years. Just don't turn around and run to the other side of the court when you're done reporting...it's that simple.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Ask anybody who attended a Phil Bova Basketball Officiating Camp from the early 1980's on, and they will tell you that Phil was teaching this mechanic back then. If you watched a Big-10 Men's game you could tell which officials had attended Phil's camp because they would use this mechanic. I believe the NBA/WNBA have been using it for some time now and you will see it used by officials at the NCAA Men's and Women's level also. I have been using it for over 25 years (yes, I am a Phil Bova Camper, ).

MTD, Sr.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by kda89508

How about these at the bottom of the page? http://www.nfhs.org/core/contentmana...es_Changes.pdf THANKS! Kevin

This is a NCAA-W mechanic and I have seen it done on the mens side as well.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

This is a NCAA-W mechanic and I have seen it done on the mens side as well.

You are a little late to the discussion.

MTD, Sr.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

This is a NCAA-W mechanic and I have seen it done on the mens side as well.

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

You are a little late to the discussion.

MTD, Sr.

Yep, see post #11.

Speaking of post #11, if the throw-in ends above the FT line extended is the T the only official who chops & below the FT line extended the T mirrors the L chop?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Speaking of post #11, if the throw-in ends above the FT line extended is the T the only official who chops & below the FT line extended the T mirrors the L chop?

I doubt it -- both officials should chop