2009-10 POEs explained

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

A player who collects the ball while airborne, having both feet off the floor, can establish possession in the air and then land on one foot followed by the other.

IMO, that's a "landing" followed by one "step" -- not two steps.

A step is a raising of the foot off the floor followed by putting the foot back on the floor.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by NFHS BASKETBALL 2009-10 POINTS OF EMPHASIS

5) A player is never permitted to move into the path of an opponent after the opponent has jumped into the air.

Does this settle an argument we had here a while back?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

IMO, that's a "landing" followed by one "step" -- not two steps.

A step is a raising of the foot off the floor followed by putting the foot back on the floor.

And isn't that what the player did - lifted both feet off the floor, caught the ball, put the first foot back on the floor (step 1), and put the second foot back on the floor (step 2)? Or, were there actually 2 "landings", and no "steps", since both feet were off the floor at the time of the ball being caught?

While I understand your point, it will be a difficult distinction to explain to a coach who quotes the guideline during the game. I wish they would not have used that specific wording, and stuck with the definitions.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

And isn't that what the player did - lifted both feet off the floor, caught the ball, put the first foot back on the floor (step 1), and put the second foot back on the floor (step 2)? Or, were there actually 2 "landings", and no "steps", since both feet were off the floor at the time of the ball being caught?

Neither...having caught the ball in the air, the landing (the first foot to touch) doesn't count as a step...any subsequent contact does.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

And isn't that what the player did - lifted both feet off the floor, caught the ball, put the first foot back on the floor (step 1), and put the second foot back on the floor (step 2)? Or, were there actually 2 "landings", and no "steps", since both feet were off the floor at the time of the ball being caught?

While I understand your point, it will be a difficult distinction to explain to a coach who quotes the guideline during the game. I wish they would not have used that specific wording, and stuck with the definitions.

Very well said.

The NFHS does not provide a definition for a step, but the rules book does mention "the other foot touches in a step." I think that we are going to be arguing with coaches who interp it to be whatever supports their cause.

I can state that what I described above is always considered a step by those on TV reviewing a replay and counting feet hitting the floor. That doesn't mean that they are correct, but if that is the prevailing opinion of the masses, then the NFHS just made our job much more difficult and opened us up to taking unnecessary grief.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The NFHS does not provide a definition for a step, but the rules book does mention "the other foot touches in a step." I think that we are going to be arguing with coaches who interp it to be whatever supports their cause.

I can state that what I described above is always considered a step by those on TV reviewing a replay and counting feet hitting the floor. That doesn't mean that they are correct, but if that is the prevailing opinion of the masses, then the NFHS just made our job much more difficult and opened us up to taking unnecessary grief.

One can split hairs and argue language specifics here, but the bottom line is that this sentence:

A player may never take two steps while in possession of the ball.

is a lot more accurate than:

He's allowed two steps on a (layup or whatever.)

The second sentence is what a huge number of player/coaches/fans believe.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

IMO, that's a "landing" followed by one "step" -- not two steps.

A step is a raising of the foot off the floor followed by putting the foot back on the floor.

I agree with your statement Bob....I believe they are talking about a player holding the ball and then taking two steps and shoot.......

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

I agree with your statement Bob....I believe they are talking about a player holding the ball and then taking two step and shoot.......

[devil's advocate on]
Cool, I got it! So when post player A1 gets the ball on the block, with their back to the basket, pivots on the right foot, and the left foot takes 2 (or, gasp...3 or 4 steps!), while the right foot stays firmly planted to the ground, well, hell, that's a travel! Damn, that left foot took actual rule-book defined "STEPS", by gosh!
[/devil's advocate]