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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 04:38pm
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Why are they reversing whow free throws are administered in 2 man? Is the trail getting winded going opposite tableside?
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 04:43pm
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Mirroring chopping the clock? eww
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 04:45pm
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Mirroring chopping the clock? eww
Aren't we supposed to be watching the players in our area?
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 04:48pm
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No they are on the website!

I sure would not have typed these in. You were still on table side in high school 3 man last year but I dont agree with these changes. Kevin
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I sure would not have typed these in. You were still on table side in high school 3 man last year but I dont agree with these changes. Kevin
Calling official went opposite table in 3 man for last season.
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 04:56pm
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Is the trail getting winded going opposite tableside?
We've been doing this in Texas for a number of years and it is a much better mechanic. If the coach wants to have a word with you, you are right there. Plus, it speeds up time. When I'm lead, I bounce the ball the instant the Trail turns around after reporting the foul (they know to be ready, and I expect them to do the same). Finally, if the table has an issue, you are right there.

There's no good reason to go opposite table. The only stated reason was to get away from the coach, but I've done it both ways (a LOT) and staying there works better. I can shut down whatever behavior I need to from there easier as well.
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 04:57pm
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Calling official went opposite table in 3 man for last season.
Nope. Not by the NFHS manual. Perhaps by a directive from YOUR specific state.

The NCAA Mens official went opposite, but the NCAA Womens stayed tableside.

I think that you are confused.
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 05:08pm
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Personally, I like the idea of the reporting official staying up top table side. This is the same mechanic that trail does in three man. Seems to flow much smoother.
However, I don’t like having to mirror the chop. This will take the trail's eyes off the pre-throwin action in his primary because he has to watch his partner at the end-line.
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 05:19pm
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The 2-man change is to more closely match the 3-man system.

The calling official is now tableside. People can debate whether that helps or hurts with the coaches.

The 3-man change is to more closely match the NCAA mechanics.
The NCAAW's (and some of the men's officials) officials have the Trail mirroring the chop. It helps the timer who sometimes has difficultly seeing the Lead.
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So if the trail calls a foul in the forecourt and there are shots there is no switch? And after they moved the calling official away from the table this past season they want the calling official near the bench in a crew of two? I noticed that it says 2009-11 for mechanics changes. Did you type these yourself? [No I have not gone to the Fed website yet]
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 07:11pm
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So if the trail calls a foul in the forecourt and there are shots there is no switch? And after they moved the calling official away from the table this past season they want the calling official near the bench in a crew of two? I noticed that it says 2009-11 for mechanics changes. Did you type these yourself? [No I have not gone to the Fed website yet]
That rule was only in NCAA Mens not in High School unless your state did something different. Kevin
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Old Tue May 19, 2009, 07:35pm
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That rule was only in NCAA Mens not in High School unless your state did something different. Kevin
I am asking my old interpreter. It COULD be an IAABO mechanic. Which is mostly in the Northeast.
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Old Wed May 20, 2009, 08:38am
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I am asking my old interpreter. It COULD be an IAABO mechanic. Which is mostly in the Northeast.
Correct, the calling official goes opposite table was a new IAABO mechanic for 08-09 ie: NCAA-M. Our association decided to stay tableside ie: NCAA-W. Much to my dismay, next season we will go opposite in 3 person. I really like staying tableside as it makes communication with coaches/table easier. I don't like being questioned about my partners call just because I'm the closest & I don't like coaches hollaring across my court...

T chops is good, I like that mechanic!
It looks as though HS tries to adapt the best NCAA mechanics from both sides. Must be a challenge for those of you who work both levels.

As far as 2 person goes, having the calling official become tableside T on FTs is cool, but administering the FTs at L & going opposite??? How confusing is THAT going to be working back & forth from 2 - 3 person night to night?? Not sure about that one, but here's an idea. How about no more 2 person, period!!
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Old Wed May 20, 2009, 09:39am
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How about no more 2 person, period!!
Pretty sure this is not economically feasible.
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Pretty sure this is not economically feasible.
Wishful thinking I guess
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