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Old Sat Apr 18, 2009, 04:31pm
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Lifting the pivot foot and then starting a dribble is a traveling violation.

Traveling is moving the pivot foot outside prescribed limits.

The pivot foot may not be lifted before the ball is released, to start a dribble.

Therefore, lifting the pivot foot in this situation is the violation. It simply isn't called until the dribble is released.
I cannot agree (see LDUB's reply): it's a violation if you start a dribble after you've lifted the pivot foot. Lifting the pivot foot is not "per se" a violation.

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So in FEEBLE rules, a player who is straddling the division line is in the FC?
Yes.

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If a player ends his dribble with his right foot in the FC and then makes his final step with his left foot in the BC, the right foot is not the pivot?
It's already a violation. If you end the dribble with a foot in the frontcourt the ball has frontcourt status, because when the dribble has ended the "three point rule" doesn't hold any more; putting down the other foot in the backcourt is a violation.

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I don't think you know what you're talking about.
I know what I'm talking about. I believe that case would be a violation also under Fed rules.

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Old Sat Apr 18, 2009, 06:26pm
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With regard to the traveling violation which occurs when the pivot is lifted before the start of the dribble, the violation takes place, specifically, when?

According to an argument in another thread, my view of this will be different from that of almost everybody else.
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