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Old Wed Apr 08, 2009, 02:23pm
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That is interesting. I have been to a lot of camps and I have never heard anyone suggest call something that is funny. I have heard "make it be there" but not "if it looks funny...." But does that example not put holes in your point of view a bit?



In theory that sounds great. Calling traveling violations is such a subjective thing to see and has a lot of judgment to it. There are many more traveling possibilities than there are with most fouls. Every time someone starts or ends a dribble and every time a player gets control of the ball there are possibilities of a violation. Not the same thing with other fouls or even violations.

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Of course they don't say that to other officials - they would lose all credibility. I am not talking about camps. I am talking about the season. How many camp instructors actually do on the floor what they say at camp? I had one instructor tell me I should have called a tech on a player during a camp game. Same official went over 3 years without calling one and I saw plenty of situations that needed a tech called, including a game I worked with him.
Also, I've had plenty of instructors say, "Don't watch me to know what to do. Do as I say not as I do."
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Old Wed Apr 08, 2009, 02:42pm
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Of course they don't say that to other officials - they would lose all credibility. I am not talking about camps. I am talking about the season. How many camp instructors actually do on the floor what they say at camp?
I cannot tell you how many, but many of the clinicians I have evaluate me; I have watched them in person. They practice what they preach. At least they are not doing something totally different than what I was told or what I see them tell other. There are always exceptions, but I see many follow the philosophies they teach at camps.

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I had one instructor tell me I should have called a tech on a player during a camp game. Same official went over 3 years without calling one and I saw plenty of situations that needed a tech called, including a game I worked with him.
What does one have to do with the other? Your situation might have been an obvious situation where his/her situation might have been totally different. I feel we should call more Ts in certain situations or know how to deal with situations without the T like understand when to give warnings.

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Also, I've had plenty of instructors say, "Don't watch me to know what to do. Do as I say not as I do."
I have told people that too. Depending on the instructor, they can do things because no one is judging them the same as someone that has not broken in yet. It sounds like you have a problem with dealing with the reality of what we do, then trying to evaluate every call that is being made.

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