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Oh, I see what you are saying. He was going to write Mr. Adams and post that letter here, but sans his name.
Might have to change his username.
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...As for the issue raised in the original post, the last thing I will say is none of us have seen the letter that was sent raising the question and none of us have seen the response, if any...
I wouldn't assume that.
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I just wasted 10 min. reading this thread.

If anyone wants more of a certain minority to be represented at the top, then go out and recruit more of that minority to begin at the entry level.
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If anyone wants more of a certain minority to be represented at the top, then go out and recruit more of that minority to begin at the entry level.
Makes sense to me. My local IAABO board, and IAABO in general, is trying to recruit more female officials.
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First I want to say that I know several officials who post here, to include Brad, personally and I would hope they all know race is not something that keeps me from treating anyone fairly. Now on to my point.

Do the people on this board realize that blacks have historically been kept out of certain positions because it was perceived we weren't smart enough? Management positions, coaches, quarterbacks, etc. At one time black teams weren't supposed to be smart enough to defeat a white team. I say that to ask again, do you really think none of this prejudice impacts officiating?

In addition to the perceived notion that we aren't smart enough, there is the issue of the good old boy network that is D1 assigners. I know there are several D1 assigners who are black, but there are still those who aren't and could have a long history of hatred.

This discussion shouldn't be a lecture, but it shouldn't be so easily blown off either. The race card exists and we need to ask ourselves why. I'm also wondering if those who blow this off would blow it off so easily if we were talking gender.
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I just wasted 10 min. reading this thread.

If anyone wants more of a certain minority to be represented at the top, then go out and recruit more of that minority to begin at the entry level.
You are not informed. There are several black officials at the entry level.
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After reading through this thread and the previous ones, I guess I'm wondering, why does have race matter (in both directions)?

If black, white, hispanic, asian, etc officials are being held back due to their race, then that isn't right and it should be addressed. The officials that do the best should be the ones to advance but obviously, there are many factors that come into play when we look at the preferences and prejudices of supervisors. It is an ideal but why not work towards it?

Me personally, I don't care if my partner is black, white, asian, hispanic, blue or purple...I just care they can do a good job.
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This discussion shouldn't be a lecture, but it shouldn't be so easily blown off either. The race card exists and we need to ask ourselves why. I'm also wondering if those who blow this off would blow it off so easily if we were talking gender.
There are people that come unglued because you say you do not like Women's basketball.

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There are people that come unglued because you say you do not like Women's basketball.

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Shoot. I missed the game tonight.

Well, there is a hockey game on, so I think I will get over it.
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Shoot. I missed the game tonight.

Well, there is a hockey game on, so I think I will get over it.
Damn, I missed a hockey game?

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Well, there is a hockey game on, so I think I will get over it.
A Florida cat watching hockey? Whoa....
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A Florida cat watching hockey? Whoa....
I'm a recent transplant & the Habs are on.
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Damn, I missed a hockey game?

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I am guessing it was not because you had the WNCAA game on.
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I am guessing it was not because you had the WNCAA game on.
Worse, NIT.

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