NCAA Tourney - Marquette v. Missouri

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Watching in silence, I thought he was gonna get a T when he didn't get that foul call he wanted on his out of control shooter.
And I agree the block call was spot on; defender was moving into the shooter when contact was made.

HC for Marquette did a good job of putting his hand over his mouth while dropping f*Bombs on the referees during the last few seconds of the game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

HC for Marquette did a good job of putting his hand over his mouth while dropping f*Bombs on the referees during the last few seconds of the game.

I saw he had his hand over his mouth; figured he was shouting instructions to his players. Thought for sure he was gonna get a T.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

HC for Marquette did a good job of putting his hand over his mouth while dropping f*Bombs on the referees during the last few seconds of the game.

How do we know what he was saying to the official?

Peace

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

How do we know what he was saying to the official?

Peace

Just guessing by his actions and by covering his mouth so his lips couldn't be read...he wasn't letting them know they were doing a great job. Not sure they were actual f*bombs.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Just guessing by his actions and by covering his mouth so his lips couldn't be read...he wasn't letting them know they were doing a great job. Not sure they were actual f*bombs.

I am sure he was saying something to the official, I just am not confident to say he was using profanity or saying something totally inappropriate. We just do not know unless the audio picked up something. And in watching it, all I can do is assume.

Peace

[rockyroad]

"Assuming" that he was telling them what his thoughts and feelings were about their calls would probably be pretty safe. I thought it was hilarious that he covered his mouth so the camera couldn't pick up his lips. I also thought it was very wise of the official on the endline to move farther away from the coach.

I also am wondering about the L not having a whistle on the last Marquette shot. The ball clearly bounces oob and he just stands there looking back at his partners, then turns to get the ball. Never once blew his whistle, never once went to the partners to help with putting time back on the clock. Nothing. Just stood there. That was weird!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I also am wondering about the L not having a whistle on the last Marquette shot. The ball clearly bounces oob and he just stands there looking back at his partners, then turns to get the ball. Never once blew his whistle, never once went to the partners to help with putting time back on the clock. Nothing. Just stood there. That was weird!

It looked like he thought one of his partners had a whistle just before it went out. I thought I heard something that sounded like a whistle...perhaps a shoe squeak. That would explain his lack of a call.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am sure he was saying something to the official, I just am not confident to say he was using profanity or saying something totally inappropriate. We just do not know unless the audio picked up something. And in watching it, all I can do is assume.

Peace

Come on JRut, why would he cover his mouth so that TV couldn't read his lips unless he was using profanity...he was totally irrate at this time of the game. He would not be the first coach to drop a "bad" word on a referee.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Come on JRut, why would he cover his mouth so that TV couldn't read his lips unless he was using profanity...he was totally irrate at this time of the game. He would not be the first coach to drop a "bad" word on a referee.

Now I am supposed to be a mind reader? I do not try to understand why people do anything. The point is you do not know and I do not know. And to say that "he had to be dropping F-bombs" might be a stretch.

I do not know why this really matters to you; the officials did not give him a T for doing it. And unless you talk to them, you do not know what they said or what they think he said.

Give me a break if you think you know why and what was said.

Peace

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Now I am supposed to be a mind reader? I do not try to understand why people do anything. The point is you do not know and I do not know. And to say that "he had to be dropping F-bombs" might be a stretch.

I do not know why this really matters to you; the officials did not give him a T for doing it. And unless you talk to them, you do not know what they said or what they think he said.

Give me a break if you think you know why and what was said.

Peace

Here was my previous post:

Just guessing by his actions and by covering his mouth so his lips couldn't be read...he wasn't letting them know they were doing a great job. Not sure they were actual f*bombs.

Relax a bit...it really doesn't matter to me either way.
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[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

How do we know what he was saying to the official?

Peace

Exactly. How do we know he wasn't asking Cartmell if he wanted to join him for beers at the pub across the street in an hour??

Kudos to Cartmell for just ignoring him. Whacking him in those last few seconds would have just given him a bigger stage to throw his tantrum.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Exactly. How do we know he wasn't asking Cartmell if he wanted to join him for beers at the pub across the street in an hour??

There is a difference between saying someone was throwing "F-Bombs" and saying they were complaining about something. We have no idea what was said and what was not said. I guess you can read lips through someone's hands. And the coach might not have said anything that he did not say before. Which in many ways would not raise any eyebrows under the right circumstance.

Peace

[Adam]

I won't say "kudos" necessarily, since i don't know what was said. If he was using profanity and dropping F-bombs loudly at the officials, I don't give a rat's tail whether we could read his lips or not. I'll give the official the benefit of the doubt here, but let's not pretend an official shouldn't call a T here just because it might give the howler monkey a bigger stage for his tantrum.

Any coach can earn that stage if he wants, I don't care.