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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 03:20am
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This was the final game of the weekend for me up in Boise.

There were plenty of situations in it to discuss.

A few things which have not been mentioned so far:

1. Officials consult the monitor regarding a shot clock violation call with 1:13 remaining.

2. The block/charge with 5.5 seconds left.

3. Following the end line violation, Marquette fouls. The clock stops a bit slow. Marquette HC gesturing wildly and doing jumping jacks on the court to get the attention of the officials. They see him. He points to his wrist. One of the officials gives the same gesture in return. The first FT is then attempted. After it is successful the Marquette HC takes a time-out and when the officials come over, he is able to get them to check the monitor for the game clock. It is reset from 4.4 to 5.0 and then the 2nd FT is attempted.

4. The inadvertant whistle with 36.1 seconds remaining in the first half.
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 06:26am
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1. Officials can go to the monitor to see if the ball hit the rim...this was the correct call and procedure.

2. This was an obvious blocking foul on Marquette.

3. I thought they handled this well...they had a few clock issues in the game...out of the officials control.
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Actually, I believe after the violation, which was undeniable, the coach was telling his team: "We have to foul."
JAR, could be.

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Marquette HC gesturing wildly and doing jumping jacks on the court to get the attention of the officials. They see him. He points to his wrist.
I tell you what though, in several of those games where it came down to the end and controversial calls, some of those coaches were way, way out on the court!
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 06:57am
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JAR, could be.

I tell you what though, in several of those games where it came down to the end and controversial calls, some of those coaches were way, way out on the court!
The Marquette Coach Buzz Williams lost his mind at the end of the game.
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 07:49am
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This was the final game of the weekend for me up in Boise.

There were plenty of situations in it to discuss.

A few things which have not been mentioned so far:

1. Officials consult the monitor regarding a shot clock violation call with 1:13 remaining.

2. The block/charge with 5.5 seconds left.

3. Following the end line violation, Marquette fouls. The clock stops a bit slow. Marquette HC gesturing wildly and doing jumping jacks on the court to get the attention of the officials. They see him. He points to his wrist. One of the officials gives the same gesture in return. The first FT is then attempted. After it is successful the Marquette HC takes a time-out and when the officials come over, he is able to get them to check the monitor for the game clock. It is reset from 4.4 to 5.0 and then the 2nd FT is attempted.

4. The inadvertant whistle with 36.1 seconds remaining in the first half.

1) They checked to see if the ball hit the rim. It didn't and the clock expired before the put back by Marquette.

2) Block call was correct.

3) I was wondering what the HC was excited about.

4) Didn't see the 1st half
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 08:31am
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Actually, I believe after the violation, which was undeniable, the coach was telling his team: "We have to foul."
Exactly what I saw. I loved the call, but couldn't hear the announcers on it since we were at a restaurant.

My daughter ratted me out as soon as we sat down. "Dad, it's perfect for you, a big screen TV." Wife hadn't noticed yet.

"Do we need to switch places?"

"No, I'm good."
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The Marquette Coach Buzz Williams lost his mind at the end of the game.
Watching in silence, I thought he was gonna get a T when he didn't get that foul call he wanted on his out of control shooter.
And I agree the block call was spot on; defender was moving into the shooter when contact was made.
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Did anyone have a foul on that last shot? I did.
I know, I know, don't decide the game. C had no angle on it.
Please don't say this. If he had been fouled, not calling it would be deciding the game. In this case, though, there was no foul. The defender was moving in a straight line away from the shooter and the shooter initiated all the contact.
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Watching in silence, I thought he was gonna get a T when he didn't get that foul call he wanted on his out of control shooter.
And I agree the block call was spot on; defender was moving into the shooter when contact was made.
HC for Marquette did a good job of putting his hand over his mouth while dropping f*Bombs on the referees during the last few seconds of the game.
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Please don't say this. If he had been fouled, not calling it would be deciding the game. In this case, though, there was no foul. The defender was moving in a straight line away from the shooter and the shooter initiated all the contact.
It was a great no call.
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HC for Marquette did a good job of putting his hand over his mouth while dropping f*Bombs on the referees during the last few seconds of the game.
I saw he had his hand over his mouth; figured he was shouting instructions to his players. Thought for sure he was gonna get a T.
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HC for Marquette did a good job of putting his hand over his mouth while dropping f*Bombs on the referees during the last few seconds of the game.
How do we know what he was saying to the official?

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How do we know what he was saying to the official?

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Just guessing by his actions and by covering his mouth so his lips couldn't be read...he wasn't letting them know they were doing a great job. Not sure they were actual f*bombs.
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Just guessing by his actions and by covering his mouth so his lips couldn't be read...he wasn't letting them know they were doing a great job. Not sure they were actual f*bombs.
I am sure he was saying something to the official, I just am not confident to say he was using profanity or saying something totally inappropriate. We just do not know unless the audio picked up something. And in watching it, all I can do is assume.

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How do we know what he was saying to the official?

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Exactly. How do we know he wasn't asking Cartmell if he wanted to join him for beers at the pub across the street in an hour??

Kudos to Cartmell for just ignoring him. Whacking him in those last few seconds would have just given him a bigger stage to throw his tantrum.
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