Spin Move are traveling violations

[bradfordwilkins]

Called one last night. They were livid hah.

[jalons]

I worked a game this season with a D1 women's official who gave me this piece of advice as it pertains to the spin move and traveling:

If the inside foot on the spin move is replanted, the player has probably committed a traveling violation. In other words, if the player jumps off two feet it is probably traveling. If the player jumps off one foot to shoot, the play is probably legal.

Of course, this depends on when the ball is actually secured by the ball handler.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jalons

I worked a game this season with a D1 women's official who gave me this piece of advice as it pertains to the spin move and traveling:

If the inside foot on the spin move is replanted, the player has probably committed a traveling violation. In other words, if the player jumps off two feet it is probably traveling. If the player jumps off one foot to shoot, the play is probably legal.

Of course, this depends on when the ball is actually secured by the ball handler.

Probably better to just find the pivot foot and then see if it gets replanted.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by jalons

I worked a game this season with a D1 women's official who gave me this piece of advice as it pertains to the spin move and traveling:

If the inside foot on the spin move is replanted, the player has probably committed a traveling violation. In other words, if the player jumps off two feet it is probably traveling. If the player jumps off one foot to shoot, the play is probably legal.

Of course, this depends on when the ball is actually secured by the ball handler.

So, it sounds like the official has to know what the pivot is, and if it replants again to the floor, it is a travel.

Good advice.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

So, it sounds like the official has to know what the pivot is, and if it replants again to the floor, it is a travel.

Good advice.

Actually, on many of the moves in question, it is obvious that both
feet are lifted then returned to the floor.

[JRutledge]

I always find it interesting how people sit on their couch and claim what officials miss. I wonder if I went to their games and could role back the tape and see what they missed.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I always find it interesting how people sit on their couch and claim what officials miss. I wonder if I went to their games and could role back the tape and see what they missed.

Peace

Not just a claim. It's there. Many of the travels discussed here are obvious to me when they happen, and yes, I have the benefit of dvr to confirm the play.
The point is, the guys calling the tournament are supposed to be on another level. I find it difficult to believe that they miss this many calls of this type. Therefore, one must conclude that the travel is in many cases ignored. The question is why?? I have yet to hear a satisfactory answer.
Perhaps you have one.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Not just a claim. It's there. Many of the travels discussed here are obvious to me when they happen, and yes, I have the benefit of dvr to confirm the play.

You are right, you have the benefit of your DVR. The officials on the floor did not.

Originally Posted by just another ref

The point is, the guys calling the tournament are supposed to be on another level. I find it difficult to believe that they miss this many calls of this type. Therefore, one must conclude that the travel is in many cases ignored. The question is why?? I have yet to hear a satisfactory answer.
Perhaps you have one.

What makes you think they "ignored" (your word) a travel as opposed to just missed a travel?

My point is that I bet if I go to your game, I probably can find a lot of things missed (travels, carries, fouls, judgments). I know when I watch tape of myself. I do not see perfections either. Then again I am not coming here stating that they missed but I would do better. Now that is your right to say that, but it is a lot easier to say what should be called on the sideline. And in my opinion spin moves are very difficult to identify at a higher speed than most of us ever see. I would rather have a technically missed travel and a travel that did not take place being called. I wish I had a dollar for every time I see a non-violation called by high school officials, I would be rich.

Peace