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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 10:02am
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not working the 2nd round does not prevent you from moving on in the tourney. Stats from last year to come......
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 10:08am
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4 officials in the 2008 tourney worked the 2nd weekend but only received a first round game. They were: Kelly Self, Rick Hartzell, Gerry Pollard, and Bert Smith.

All 4 worked the Sweet 16 round and none of them advanced to the Final Four.

In 2007 there were 2 and in 2006 there were 3. They all worked the Sweet 16 and none of them advanced to the Final Four.

Do you guys assume that the highest rated officials from the first weekend work the Elite 8 games? Because that would be interesting to see the percentage of guys who work in the final four from the Sweet 16 round.

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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 10:31am
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4 officials in the 2008 tourney worked the 2nd weekend but only received a first round game. They were: Kelly Self, Rick Hartzell, Gerry Pollard, and Bert Smith.

All 4 worked the Sweet 16 round and none of them advanced to the Final Four.

In 2007 there were 2 and in 2006 there were 3. They all worked the Sweet 16 and none of them advanced to the Final Four.

Do you guys assume that the highest rated officials from the first weekend work the Elite 8 games? Because that would be interesting to see the percentage of guys who work in the final four from the Sweet 16 round.
According to my sources, getting only 1 game in the first round of the 64 does not preclude an official to advance to the Sweet 16. Sometimes the 2nd game can hurt an official if they grade out badly during the 2nd round game and thus don't advance to the Sweet 16 round.

The Sweet 16 round is assigned to 9 officials per site. They are told on Monday (today) which game they will work; a Sweet 16 (Thurs or Fri) game or Elite 8 (Sat or Sun). One (or two) of the officials on the Elite 8 game will be the alternate for the crews on the Sweet 16 game.

Of course this was the case last year with Hank Nichols. How John Adams will do it this year is entirely up to him.
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 10:34am
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The true notable absences are the big name guys who usually get 2 games who didn't this year. That's a pretty big message from a new assignor. Hightower, Tim Higgins, Mike Kitts etc.
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The true notable absences are the big name guys who usually get 2 games who didn't this year. That's a pretty big message from a new assignor. Hightower, Tim Higgins, Mike Kitts etc.

So much for the Mike Kitts rumors.
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Old Fri Mar 27, 2009, 03:45am
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So much for the Mike Kitts rumors.
I believe that he was referring to the FIRST weekend, not necessarily that he wouldn't advance to the 2nd weekend.

At least that is the way that I took the comment.
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Old Fri Mar 27, 2009, 07:34am
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as I posted earlier there is past practice of a small number of officials advancing to the 2nd weekend after only working the first round. Good for Mike Kitts, maybe he responded with a good first round game, but I still say that those veteran officials only getting a first round game is a big message from Adams.
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Old Fri Mar 27, 2009, 10:18am
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Good for Mike Kitts, maybe he responded with a good first round game,
His first round game was the double OT game between Ohio State and Sienna. I wondered if that was any factor in not working the second round, but from the discussion here, it seems that second round assigments are already made prior to first round games even being played.

I would think that for each round of the tournament you would want your best officials working. If someone can be selected to work the second weekend, but not in the second round, doesn't that imply that the best aren't necessarily working the second round?
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