Notable absences (NCAA officials)

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Jay R

Here is a list of officials who were not among the 96 chosen according to my quick review.

- Ted Hilary
- Reggie Greenwood
- Sean Hull
- Bernard clinton
- Zelton Steed
- Donnee Gray
- Paul Faia
- Ray Natili
- Bert Smith
- Jeff Nichols
PS. According to one boxscore, one official was Roger Davis but I assume that was Roger Ayers

Glad to see that Hilary is not working...he can't run at all.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Glad to see that Hilary is not working...he can't run at all.

He looks like he needs a new knee. Why he continues to get as much work as he does in as bad of condition as he's been in all of this year (and last year) is beyond me.

I do not understand why commissioners and assignors cannot use fresh faces. There are highly qualified people who could actually move who miss out on a shot here.

Of course, this is the same at the HS level, where I see the same faces on TV every single year at our state tournament when there are hundreds of qualified people wondering if they will ever get their shot. This year, I didn't even watch.

[kwv001]

I think the list of names that ended their tournament after the first round is also interesting - most notably Ed Hightower. Maybe the theatrics finally bit him. If that's the case though, you have to wonder how Teddy V managed to get a second round game though.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by kwv001

I think the list of names that ended their tournament after the first round is also interesting - most notably Ed Hightower. Maybe the theatrics finally bit him. If that's the case though, you have to wonder how Teddy V managed to get a second round game though.

How do you know that one particular official is done for the tournament?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

How do you know that one particular official is done for the tournament?

That leads to my question. Are officials who only worked the 1st round still in consideration for the Sweet 16/Elite 8?

[biz]

not working the 2nd round does not prevent you from moving on in the tourney. Stats from last year to come......

[biz]

4 officials in the 2008 tourney worked the 2nd weekend but only received a first round game. They were: Kelly Self, Rick Hartzell, Gerry Pollard, and Bert Smith.

All 4 worked the Sweet 16 round and none of them advanced to the Final Four.

In 2007 there were 2 and in 2006 there were 3. They all worked the Sweet 16 and none of them advanced to the Final Four.

Do you guys assume that the highest rated officials from the first weekend work the Elite 8 games? Because that would be interesting to see the percentage of guys who work in the final four from the Sweet 16 round.

[kwv001]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

How do you know that one particular official is done for the tournament?

My assumption was that if you didn't advance from Round 1 to Round 2 you were done. Is that not the case?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by kwv001

My assumption was that if you didn't advance from Round 1 to Round 2 you were done. Is that not the case?

There is no advancement from Rd 1 to Rd 2. The officials know going into the 1st weekend whether or not they will be working 1 round or 2.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by kwv001

I think the list of names that ended their tournament after the first round is also interesting - most notably Ed Hightower. Maybe the theatrics finally bit him. If that's the case though, you have to wonder how Teddy V managed to get a second round game though.

You need to realize that officials are informed if they are working one game or two for the weekend. Then no matter how many games you worked, you may or may not advance. I believe those people are informed today if they are working this coming weekend. By this list we have no idea who is going to work further or not work.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by kwv001

I think the list of names that ended their tournament after the first round is also interesting - most notably Ed Hightower. Maybe the theatrics finally bit him. If that's the case though, you have to wonder how Teddy V managed to get a second round game though.

I think Valentine is in a different class than the others TODAY. Teddy is theatrical, yes, but he is a damned solid (and still fairly young) official who runs the floor well and isn't afraid to make a nutcutter call when needed.

(The one I saw this past weekend was when he called a throwin violation (and an obvious one, too) as the C when the thrower-in ran the line when he wasn't entitled to and the official administering the throw-in didn't realize it or didn't see it. Deer in the headlights look on the administering official's face was pretty obvious, but he went with what Teddy had right away.)

Ted seems to be in much better shape than he was 5+ years ago, too.

[GoodwillRef]

Teddy V. has worked the Final Four is the past couple of years.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Teddy V. has worked the Final Four is the past couple of years.

So did Hightower. Last year too, I believe.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

So did Hightower. Last year too, I believe.

Not just the Final Four, the National Championship game as the Referee (they do not just give that to anyone)

Peace