Nets (Not New Jersey)

[SAK]

NFHS

Required as per rule 1 sect. 10
Art. 1.... Each basket consists of a single metal ring, 18 inches inside diameter, its flange and braces, and white cored 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length suspended from beneath the ring.

Art. 3 continues to talk about the requirements of the net.

In PA as a PIAA referee, i have insurance provided for me by PIAA. The stipulation is that I must follow the rules as they are stated in the NFHS rules book. I would not want anything to happen that would cause me to not be insured for that contest.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by SAK

NFHS

Required as per rule 1 sect. 10
Art. 1.... Each basket consists of a single metal ring, 18 inches inside diameter, its flange and braces, and white cored 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length suspended from beneath the ring.

I know that's in there, but does that mean if there is no net, we don't play the game, period?

1-9-1, for example, says, "The bottom and each side of all-rectangular backboards shall be padded with a poly high-carb vinyl-type material that meets the Bashor resilience test with a range of 20-30".

Can I see a show of hands as to who has checked that recently? Anybody find the padding did not meet the test specifications, and not play the game?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I know that's in there, but does that mean if there is no net, we don't play the game, period?

1-9-1, for example, says, "The bottom and each side of all-rectangular backboards shall be padded with a poly high-carb vinyl-type material that meets the Bashor resilience test with a range of 20-30".

Can I see a show of hands as to who has checked that recently? Anybody find the padding did not meet the test specifications, and not play the game?

I check the padding before each game. I use a slide rule and an abacus. I've never had a backboard that didn't measure up (pun intended). However, once I did proceed with playing a game when we didn't have a floor.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I know that's in there, but does that mean if there is no net, we don't play the game, period?

1-9-1, for example, says, "The bottom and each side of all-rectangular backboards shall be padded with a poly high-carb vinyl-type material that meets the Bashor resilience test with a range of 20-30".

Can I see a show of hands as to who has checked that recently? Anybody find the padding did not meet the test specifications, and not play the game?

Let's compare apples to apples.

You asked if there's no nets, do the rules say we don't play the game.

I would ask you, if the backboard padding is NOT there, do you play the game?

I don't. But there's nothing there that specifically says you don't play without the padding. It just says the padding is required.

Guess what? Nets are required to.

[refguy]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Let's compare apples to apples.

You asked if there's no nets, do the rules say we don't play the game.

I would ask you, if the backboard padding is NOT there, do you play the game?

I don't. But there's nothing there that specifically says you don't play without the padding. It just says the padding is required.

Guess what? Nets are required to.

too.

[LocDog249]

Originally Posted by refguy

too.

Two.... (the number of nets needed)

[SAK]

Sometimes the problem is the assignor. If you don't work that game, that's fine. They won't use you because someone else would have worked the game.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Let's compare apples to apples.

You asked if there's no nets, do the rules say we don't play the game.

I would ask you, if the backboard padding is NOT there, do you play the game?

I don't. But there's nothing there that specifically says you don't play without the padding. It just says the padding is required.

Guess what? Nets are required to.

I'm not necessarily arguing for the sake of arguing; maybe I'm just grumpy because it's Monday.

I don't disagree with not playing the game if there is no padding - that's definitely a safety issue. But, is not having nets a safety issue? I wouldn't think so.

The reason I mentioned the padding is because the rules not only mention the padding, but also mention a specific type of padding that's required. Heck, for that matter, there's a specific type of net material that's required. But there is no mention in the rules of what occures if these requirements are not met. And I have never seen anyone check to see if the backboard padding or net material meet the rule specifications.

So, where do we draw the line? Obviously, we can't play without a ball. But could we play witout nets? Perhaps only in lower-level games, but not varsity or higher? It's not entirely out of the question that perhaps a school has had a couple of nets go bad, they've ordered more, but the shipment hasn't arrived yet. You get to the Friday night varsity game, go out to observe warmups, and that's when you find out you have to play the game with bad nets, or no nets at all. What's the call?

[mick]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

It's not entirely out of the question that perhaps a school has had a couple of nets go bad, they've ordered more, but the shipment hasn't arrived yet. You get to the Friday night varsity game, go out to observe warmups, and that's when you find out you have to play the game with bad nets, or no nets at all. What's the call?

Lots of options generally.
Not much chance of one school system with only 2 baskets. Steal a net from another basket or another school in that system.
The nets may be in *disrepair* because the rules don't say they cannot have a knot tied in them.
For backboard padding, I have once allowed duct tape to be applied.
For backboards, um... superglue.