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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 03:01pm
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NFHS R2-S10: Basket Size, Material

ART. 1: Each basket shall consist of a single metal ring, 18 inches in inside diameter, its flange and braces, and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.
ART. 2: Each ring shall not be more than 5/8 inch in diameter, with the
possible addition of small-gauge loops on the bottom edge for attaching a 12-
mesh net. The ring and its attaching flange and braces shall be bright orange in color.
ART. 3: The cord of the net shall be not less than 120-thread nor more than 144-thread twine, or plastic material of comparable dimensions with no
additional extensions. It shall be constructed to momentarily check the ball as it passes through.


NCAA R2-S13: Basket Size, Material

ART. 1: Each basket shall consist of a single metal ring, 18 inches in inside diameter, its flange and braces, and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.
ART. 2: Each ring shall not be more than 5/8 inch in diameter, with the
possible addition of small-gauge loops on the under-edge or a smaller ring
located directly under the required ring for attaching a 12-mesh net. The ring and its attaching flange and braces shall be bright orange in color.
ART. 3: The cord of the net shall be not less than 120-thread nor more than 144-thread twine, or plastic material of comparable dimensions with no
additional extensions. It shall be constructed to momentarily check the ball as it passes through.


Based upon the sentence that I have highlighted in red, I am going to go out on a limb and say that the game can not be played unless nets are attached to the rims.

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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 03:27pm
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I agree, especially with older players who can reach them.

But I guess it still begs the question - where do you draw the line between not playing the game, and playing the game while sending a report to the state association or your assigner? Obviously, it would be hard to play the game without a ball or rims. But we would still play if there was incorrect padding on the backboards, or if there was not a shadow line through the logo painted at center court. Where do nets fall in this question?
In our area we had a problem with numerous schools not having the proper padding last year. Our assignor said
no padding = no game. Amazingly, the problem cleaned up pretty quick. I heard of 2 games that weren't played.
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 03:53pm
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Based upon the sentence that I have highlighted in red, I am going to go out on a limb and say that the game can not be played unless nets are attached to the rims.
Mark, I guess I kind of skimmed over that part, but you have helped convince me this may be the reason to require that nets be there, rather than suggest they be there.

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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 04:14pm
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I am in agreement with MTD, - and myself since I am the original poster- that the nets are necessary to play the game. The net has to be there to cause the check up of the ball as confirmation that the ball passed through the ring.

NCAA Rule 4 section 4 Basket
Each basket consists of of an 18 ring, its flange and braces and appended net through which the player attempt to throw or tap the ball.

NFHS does not include the definition of a basket
however
FED Rule 4 SECTION 6 BASKET INTERFERENCE
Basket interference occurs when a player:
ART. 1 . . . Touches the ball or any part of the basket (including the net) while the ball is on or within either basket.
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 04:28pm
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NFHS does not include the definition of a basket
Actually, they do, in 1-10: "Basket Size; Material".

And I think it was you that caused all my mental distress and sleepless nights over this subject. Thanks alot.
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 06:07pm
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Mark, I don't care what other people say; I think you're alright.
I'm one of those other people that say things about Mark T. DeNucci, Sr., the ones that M&M Guy is referring to, and I agree with what M&M Guy says about what we say.
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And I think it was you that caused all my mental distress and sleepless nights over this subject.
You sound like a real basket case.
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