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Old Fri Mar 20, 2009, 04:49pm
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I would rather play the game with no nets than play the game with metal, school yard, nets. it would seem dumb but safety is always a factor with those nets.
I agree, especially with older players who can reach them.

But I guess it still begs the question - where do you draw the line between not playing the game, and playing the game while sending a report to the state association or your assigner? Obviously, it would be hard to play the game without a ball or rims. But we would still play if there was incorrect padding on the backboards, or if there was not a shadow line through the logo painted at center court. Where do nets fall in this question?
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Old Fri Mar 20, 2009, 05:00pm
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I agree, especially with older players who can reach them.

But I guess it still begs the question - where do you draw the line between not playing the game, and playing the game while sending a report to the state association or your assigner? Obviously, it would be hard to play the game without a ball or rims. But we would still play if there was incorrect padding on the backboards, or if there was not a shadow line through the logo painted at center court. Where do nets fall in this question?
For the nets:

To be honest it would depend on the level of the game and how bad the net is. If it is a school game and the net is completely missing I would have the coach contact the AD to have a new one put up. Chances are that in a school they have an extra net or can take one off the side rims. In a rec league, I would play the game but let the coordinator know that they need to have a net there, hopefully this would be able to be done in a timely manor, like next day or so depending on location of the court, IE school, ymca, or public park, or rec center.

High School Varsity or JV I would have them put a net up. It likely can be done very easily and would only delay the game for a few minutes. Plus, the school should have known that it needed a new net all day. They already had time to fix this issue.

Padding,

If it is a suspended backboard, as I assume most are for high school, then it likely only needs padding on the bottom and a little ways up on the side, Don't remember the exact amount. Hopefully it is there and just needs to be taped to the backboard. Here depending on the level I may not play. If I have concerns that someone will hit their head when attempting to dunk or block a shot I may draw the line here.

Makings on the court,

Really the only ones that I worry about during a scholastic game are the coaching box and the X for the timer. Apart from that I take the floor as it is given to me. I may tell the coach or AD that the floor markings should be changed but I understand that is expensive and likely will not get done for the current season. I may also tell my assignor as he could tell those higher up and make sure that markings on the court are as required for future play.
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Old Sat Mar 21, 2009, 12:23pm
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But I guess it still begs the question...
Nope, it doesn't. Beg The Question // Get it right.
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 03:27pm
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I agree, especially with older players who can reach them.

But I guess it still begs the question - where do you draw the line between not playing the game, and playing the game while sending a report to the state association or your assigner? Obviously, it would be hard to play the game without a ball or rims. But we would still play if there was incorrect padding on the backboards, or if there was not a shadow line through the logo painted at center court. Where do nets fall in this question?
In our area we had a problem with numerous schools not having the proper padding last year. Our assignor said
no padding = no game. Amazingly, the problem cleaned up pretty quick. I heard of 2 games that weren't played.
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 04:14pm
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I am in agreement with MTD, - and myself since I am the original poster- that the nets are necessary to play the game. The net has to be there to cause the check up of the ball as confirmation that the ball passed through the ring.

NCAA Rule 4 section 4 Basket
Each basket consists of of an 18 ring, its flange and braces and appended net through which the player attempt to throw or tap the ball.

NFHS does not include the definition of a basket
however
FED Rule 4 SECTION 6 BASKET INTERFERENCE
Basket interference occurs when a player:
ART. 1 . . . Touches the ball or any part of the basket (including the net) while the ball is on or within either basket.
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2009, 04:28pm
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NFHS does not include the definition of a basket
Actually, they do, in 1-10: "Basket Size; Material".

And I think it was you that caused all my mental distress and sleepless nights over this subject. Thanks alot.
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You sound like a real basket case.
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