It's better than Christmas morning!

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not recall that he excluded women's basketball.

True, he didn't. But I didn't exclude men's, either.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if you want to express that opinion it is fair. But then do not get mad when people here put down women's basketball (which you have in the past).

I don't get mad when people put down women's basketball. I get annoyed when people claim that women's isn't as hard to ref as men's, and when people try to convince me that I shouldn't like women's. I couldn't care less whether others like women's ball or not.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not think anyone in this thread about how they felt about one or the other.

No, and I didn't either. I just said that the first day of the men's tournament isn't the high point of my year, the first day of the women's is more exciting to me.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That being said, most people could give a damn about women's basketball.

.. and you need to remind me of that... why?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

For one the same teams are in the mix every year and there are not the upsets in the women's games like there are on the men's side.

I'm not sure that the change in teams that are in the mix is greater on the men's side or the women's, but you might be right, but so what?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So there is a different energy on the men's side and considering TV revenue and ticket sales, I could say this does not at all include Women's basketball and never did when referring to March Madness.

and that means what exactly???

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Just my opinion of course.

Of course!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

True, he didn't. But I didn't exclude men's, either.

I don't get mad when people put down women's basketball. I get annoyed when people claim that women's isn't as hard to ref as men's, and when people try to convince me that I shouldn't like women's. I couldn't care less whether others like women's ball or not.

So you know most of the people that make that comment are those that work that level. If you have to constantly tell people that you are getting paid the same amount as those that are doing Men's or Boy's basketball without solicitation that is telling if you ask me. And in my opinion it is easier to work for a bunch of reasons which we do not need to get into. I do what I do and many do what they do because they enjoy working those levels, not what is necessarily easier.

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

.. and you need to remind me of that... why?

Well why did you feel the need to remind us that today was not a big day for you? No one asked who agreed with the point of view that this was the day before Christmas or not; this was just a personal statement on his part and that is how most of us seemed to take it.

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

I'm not sure that the change in teams that are in the mix is greater on the men's side or the women's, but you might be right, but so what?

and that means what exactly???

The women's game does not have the seeding upsets like on the men's side. And that alone adds to the level of interest. For one the men's game is on network TV and you can watch tournament games on your computer. I am not sure that you can do the same on the women's side.

And no matter what, I really think you need to lighten up about this topic. If you love Women's college basketball, start a thread about it and see if people respond. I am not sure why it matters that you feel so different about the product than others do.

Just a thought.

Peace