It's better than Christmas morning!

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My favorite day of the year is the first day of the NCAA tournament.
I feel like a little kid getting up early on Christmas morning and rushing to see what's under the tree.

Now gimme my games!!!!!

Well, okay, for you maybe. For me, the Jesus thing adds a lot to Christmas, that just isn't there the first day of the men's tourney. And then there's the fact that the women don't play until Saturday... Gotta admit, it's NOT the best day of the year for me...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Well, okay, for you maybe. For me, the Jesus thing adds a lot to Christmas, that just isn't there the first day of the men's tourney. And then there's the fact that the women don't play until Saturday... Gotta admit, it's NOT the best day of the year for me...

Women? Saturday? There are 8 men's games that day. Why don't the women wait until Monday to start?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Women? Saturday? There are 8 men's games that day. Why don't the women wait until Monday to start?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

It would make sense. The men's tourney is about 20X (if not more) more popular than the women's event. I would watch the women if they were on Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday, but the chance of me watching Saturday is about zero.

I'm sure others feel the same way. It's bad scheduling.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Well, okay, for you maybe. For me, the Jesus thing adds a lot to Christmas, that just isn't there the first day of the men's tourney. And then there's the fact that the women don't play until Saturday... Gotta admit, it's NOT the best day of the year for me...

Juulie,

It is very well known that this event is a national pastime for a great deal of the country. Why is it necessary to point out that you watch something else in the context of this thread? After all, the World Baseball Classic is going on and I am sure there are people here that care about that. I would bet the majority of people here couldn't care less about either. The NIT started this week too, I have not heard anyone comment on that at all here.

Peace

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Juulie,

It is very well known that this event is a national pastime for a great deal of the country. Why is it necessary to point out that you watch something else in the context of this thread? After all, the World Baseball Classic is going on and I am sure there are people here that care about that. I would bet the majority of people here couldn't care less about either. The NIT started this week too, I have not heard anyone comment on that at all here.

Peace

March Madness is a national pastime, true, but that phrase includes the women's games which don't start until Saturday. For me, that's when the excitement starts. So Nevada expressed his opinion, I expressed mine. NBD.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

March Madness is a national pastime, true, but that phrase includes the women's games which don't start until Saturday. For me, that's when the excitement starts. So Nevada expressed his opinion, I expressed mine. NBD.

I do not recall that he excluded women's basketball. And if you want to express that opinion it is fair. But then do not get mad when people here put down women's basketball (which you have in the past). I do not think anyone in this thread about how they felt about one or the other. That being said, most people could give a damn about women's basketball. For one the same teams are in the mix every year and there are not the upsets in the women's games like there are on the men's side. So there is a different energy on the men's side and considering TV revenue and ticket sales, I could say this does not at all include Women's basketball and never did when referring to March Madness. Just my opinion of course.

Peace

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not recall that he excluded women's basketball.

True, he didn't. But I didn't exclude men's, either.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if you want to express that opinion it is fair. But then do not get mad when people here put down women's basketball (which you have in the past).

I don't get mad when people put down women's basketball. I get annoyed when people claim that women's isn't as hard to ref as men's, and when people try to convince me that I shouldn't like women's. I couldn't care less whether others like women's ball or not.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not think anyone in this thread about how they felt about one or the other.

No, and I didn't either. I just said that the first day of the men's tournament isn't the high point of my year, the first day of the women's is more exciting to me.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That being said, most people could give a damn about women's basketball.

.. and you need to remind me of that... why?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

For one the same teams are in the mix every year and there are not the upsets in the women's games like there are on the men's side.

I'm not sure that the change in teams that are in the mix is greater on the men's side or the women's, but you might be right, but so what?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

So there is a different energy on the men's side and considering TV revenue and ticket sales, I could say this does not at all include Women's basketball and never did when referring to March Madness.

and that means what exactly???

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Just my opinion of course.

Of course!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

True, he didn't. But I didn't exclude men's, either.

I don't get mad when people put down women's basketball. I get annoyed when people claim that women's isn't as hard to ref as men's, and when people try to convince me that I shouldn't like women's. I couldn't care less whether others like women's ball or not.

So you know most of the people that make that comment are those that work that level. If you have to constantly tell people that you are getting paid the same amount as those that are doing Men's or Boy's basketball without solicitation that is telling if you ask me. And in my opinion it is easier to work for a bunch of reasons which we do not need to get into. I do what I do and many do what they do because they enjoy working those levels, not what is necessarily easier.

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

.. and you need to remind me of that... why?

Well why did you feel the need to remind us that today was not a big day for you? No one asked who agreed with the point of view that this was the day before Christmas or not; this was just a personal statement on his part and that is how most of us seemed to take it.

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

I'm not sure that the change in teams that are in the mix is greater on the men's side or the women's, but you might be right, but so what?

and that means what exactly???

The women's game does not have the seeding upsets like on the men's side. And that alone adds to the level of interest. For one the men's game is on network TV and you can watch tournament games on your computer. I am not sure that you can do the same on the women's side.

And no matter what, I really think you need to lighten up about this topic. If you love Women's college basketball, start a thread about it and see if people respond. I am not sure why it matters that you feel so different about the product than others do.

Just a thought.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

March Madness is a national pastime, true, but that phrase includes the women's games which don't start until Saturday. For me, that's when the excitement starts. So Nevada expressed his opinion, I expressed mine. NBD.

Interesting then that the NCAA men's championship site uses the phrase about a dozen times and the women's site uses it.....not at all.

[BillyMac]

Didn't "March Madness" originally refer to the Illinois state high school basketbal tournament? Something about, "Play early, and play often", or something like that?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Didn't "March Madness" originally refer to the Illinois state high school basketbal tournament? Something about, "Play early, and play often", or something like that?

The term was apparently first used by the Illinois High School Association. And the IHSA sued a few years ago for the copyright laws or exclusive right for this game. The NCAA put out a video game called “March Madness” back in the mid to late 90s and the IHSA sued to have them remove the name from the game or give them money for the use of the term.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Interesting then that the NCAA men's championship site uses the phrase about a dozen times and the women's site uses it.....not at all.

Alright, I'm going to get crucified and will probably have to delete this:


Since they don't use March Madness how about 'It's that time of the month'

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Alright, I'm going to get crucified and will probably have to delete this:


Since they don't use March Madness how about 'It's that time of the month'

Since when do people on this board get crucified for saying something irrelevant and stupid?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Since when do people on this board get crucified for saying something irrelevant and stupid?

This is a good point.