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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 09:31am
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And we wonder why fans - players - coaches get upset at officials. I counted over 10 fouls missed by this crew and numerous violations in last nights Tenn. - S.Carolina game. Obvious fouls under the basket, pushing, elbows flying, unsportmanlike (2) JP Prince, PC and TC, etc. Fans were going nuts and coaches were bewildered. It was obvious this crew had an off night. If we give them the ammunition, they will fire.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 09:49am
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Seems a little early for fanboy season. Conference tourney's have just begun and that is only at the mid major level.

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May I ask your credentials for evaluating div 1 officials?
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 10:24am
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And we wonder why fans - players - coaches get upset at officials. I counted over 10 fouls missed by this crew and numerous violations in last nights Tenn. - S.Carolina game. Obvious fouls under the basket, pushing, elbows flying, unsportmanlike (2) JP Prince, PC and TC, etc. Fans were going nuts and coaches were bewildered. It was obvious this crew had an off night. If we give them the ammunition, they will fire.
Which team were you rooting for? There can easily be 10 foul calls that you thought should have been called, but others would not. Fans routinely go "nuts" WHENEVER a foul is called against their team/not called for their team. Coaches bewildered? Hmmm....They can often be bewildered with officials.....
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 10:52am
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I counted over 10 fouls missed by this crew and numerous violations in last nights Tenn. - S.Carolina game.
Glad to see you can count past 10.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 10:56am
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Glad to see you can count past 10.
I can't count past ten. All I can come up with after that is "double bonus."
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 11:00am
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I can't count past ten. All I can come up with after that is "double bonus."
Don, It's not that you CAN'T count past 10. You DON'T count past 10. Most fans CAN'T count past 10.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 11:16am
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My popcorn's ready...keep the zingers coming! LOL
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My popcorn's ready...keep the zingers coming! LOL
With a Title like it has, Shocker this thread went downhill fast.....NOT! How long it remains open is yet to be seen......
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 11:51am
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Most fans CAN'T count past 10.
At least not without taking off their shoes.

Greeting from 3 hours north on U-183, btw.
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Paco, why don't you describe one or two of the missed fouls, or better yet, post a link to a video.

What makes you think your judgment on those fouls is better than the officials on the court? And, if they missed them, what makes you think you wouldn't have?

If we questioned the officials every time a coach got confused....
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 12:15pm
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Paco, why don't you describe one or two of the missed fouls, or better yet, post a link to a video.

What makes you think your judgment on those fouls is better than the officials on the court? And, if they missed them, what makes you think you wouldn't have?

If we questioned the officials every time a coach got confused....
Since the OP mentioned flying elbows I'll address one call I'm sure he thinks was missed but replay showed was a great no-call.

Tenn = A
USC = B

A1 gets called for a team control foul in its frontcourt. Subsequent possession B misses shot and A1 gathers rebound. B1 contests A1. A1 turns his torso just as B1 starts leaning in head-first. A1 and B1 knock heads and B1 immediately stumbles back. After B1 has started stumbling back A1's elbow comes up high with continued turning of A1's torso. Absolutely no contact is made by A1's elbow to B1. No call is made.

Live action from the main camera angle one would assume that the new trail should have called a PC on A1 for elbowing B1. However, a replay shown from behind the players clearly showed the action I bolded above. The trail was right on top the play and made a great "no-call". The trail was also the person who called the TC foul on A1 in the previous possession.

Good officiating as far as I could see.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 12:25pm
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Paco, why don't you describe one or two of the missed fouls, or better yet, post a link to a video.

What makes you think your judgment on those fouls is better than the officials on the court? And, if they missed them, what makes you think you wouldn't have?

If we questioned the officials every time a coach got confused....
Here's a link to highlights...........didn't see anything in this short capsule.

Gee, what a surprise.

YouTube - Tennessee vs. South Carolina Basketball Game Highlights-3/5
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 01:06pm
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At least not without taking off their shoes.

Greeting from 3 hours north on U-183, btw.
Greetings from Rush Springs, the watermelon capital of the world. Most fans fall into the fruit category.
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And we wonder why fans - players - coaches get upset at officials. I counted over 10 fouls missed by this crew and numerous violations in last nights Tenn. - S.Carolina game. Obvious fouls under the basket, pushing, elbows flying, unsportmanlike (2) JP Prince, PC and TC, etc. Fans were going nuts and coaches were bewildered. It was obvious this crew had an off night. If we give them the ammunition, they will fire.
And any idiot with a keyboard is allowed to post on the Internet.
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Old Fri Mar 06, 2009, 09:34pm
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As a Tennessee fan, I didn't see the missed fouls the OP talked about. I was more interested in learning how to Truly" officiate from Bobby Knight. He and Brent put on a show of what officiating really is.....
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