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JPaco54 Fri Mar 06, 2009 09:31am

UT - USC - Awful Officiating
 
And we wonder why fans - players - coaches get upset at officials. I counted over 10 fouls missed by this crew and numerous violations in last nights Tenn. - S.Carolina game. Obvious fouls under the basket, pushing, elbows flying, unsportmanlike (2) JP Prince, PC and TC, etc. Fans were going nuts and coaches were bewildered. It was obvious this crew had an off night. If we give them the ammunition, they will fire.

BBall_Junkie Fri Mar 06, 2009 09:49am

Seems a little early for fanboy season. Conference tourney's have just begun and that is only at the mid major level.

JPac...

May I ask your credentials for evaluating div 1 officials?

CMHCoachNRef Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:24am

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Originally Posted by JPaco54 (Post 585930)
And we wonder why fans - players - coaches get upset at officials. I counted over 10 fouls missed by this crew and numerous violations in last nights Tenn. - S.Carolina game. Obvious fouls under the basket, pushing, elbows flying, unsportmanlike (2) JP Prince, PC and TC, etc. Fans were going nuts and coaches were bewildered. It was obvious this crew had an off night. If we give them the ammunition, they will fire.

Which team were you rooting for? There can easily be 10 foul calls that you thought should have been called, but others would not. Fans routinely go "nuts" WHENEVER a foul is called against their team/not called for their team. Coaches bewildered? Hmmm....They can often be bewildered with officials.....;)

TravelinMan Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:52am

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Originally Posted by JPaco54 (Post 585930)
I counted over 10 fouls missed by this crew and numerous violations in last nights Tenn. - S.Carolina game.

Glad to see you can count past 10. :D

DonInKansas Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:56am

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Originally Posted by TravelinMan (Post 585948)
Glad to see you can count past 10. :D

I can't count past ten. All I can come up with after that is "double bonus."

TravelinMan Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:00am

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Originally Posted by DonInKansas (Post 585950)
I can't count past ten. All I can come up with after that is "double bonus."

Don, It's not that you CAN'T count past 10. You DON'T count past 10. Most fans CAN'T count past 10. :D

Ref Ump Welsch Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:16am

My popcorn's ready...keep the zingers coming! LOL

grunewar Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:22am

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Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch (Post 585958)
My popcorn's ready...keep the zingers coming! LOL

With a Title like it has, Shocker this thread went downhill fast.....NOT! How long it remains open is yet to be seen......:rolleyes:

DonInKansas Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:51am

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Originally Posted by TravelinMan (Post 585952)
Most fans CAN'T count past 10. :D

At least not without taking off their shoes.:p

Greeting from 3 hours north on U-183, btw.:)

Adam Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:56am

Paco, why don't you describe one or two of the missed fouls, or better yet, post a link to a video.

What makes you think your judgment on those fouls is better than the officials on the court? And, if they missed them, what makes you think you wouldn't have?

If we questioned the officials every time a coach got confused....

Raymond Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:15pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 585972)
Paco, why don't you describe one or two of the missed fouls, or better yet, post a link to a video.

What makes you think your judgment on those fouls is better than the officials on the court? And, if they missed them, what makes you think you wouldn't have?

If we questioned the officials every time a coach got confused....

Since the OP mentioned flying elbows I'll address one call I'm sure he thinks was missed but replay showed was a great no-call.

Tenn = A
USC = B

A1 gets called for a team control foul in its frontcourt. Subsequent possession B misses shot and A1 gathers rebound. B1 contests A1. A1 turns his torso just as B1 starts leaning in head-first. A1 and B1 knock heads and B1 immediately stumbles back. After B1 has started stumbling back A1's elbow comes up high with continued turning of A1's torso. Absolutely no contact is made by A1's elbow to B1. No call is made.

Live action from the main camera angle one would assume that the new trail should have called a PC on A1 for elbowing B1. However, a replay shown from behind the players clearly showed the action I bolded above. The trail was right on top the play and made a great "no-call". The trail was also the person who called the TC foul on A1 in the previous possession.

Good officiating as far as I could see.

fullor30 Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:25pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 585972)
Paco, why don't you describe one or two of the missed fouls, or better yet, post a link to a video.

What makes you think your judgment on those fouls is better than the officials on the court? And, if they missed them, what makes you think you wouldn't have?

If we questioned the officials every time a coach got confused....

Here's a link to highlights...........didn't see anything in this short capsule.

Gee, what a surprise.

YouTube - Tennessee vs. South Carolina Basketball Game Highlights-3/5

TravelinMan Fri Mar 06, 2009 01:06pm

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Originally Posted by DonInKansas (Post 585970)
At least not without taking off their shoes.:p

Greeting from 3 hours north on U-183, btw.:)

Greetings from Rush Springs, the watermelon capital of the world. Most fans fall into the fruit category. :D

BktBallRef Fri Mar 06, 2009 04:49pm

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Originally Posted by JPaco54 (Post 585930)
And we wonder why fans - players - coaches get upset at officials. I counted over 10 fouls missed by this crew and numerous violations in last nights Tenn. - S.Carolina game. Obvious fouls under the basket, pushing, elbows flying, unsportmanlike (2) JP Prince, PC and TC, etc. Fans were going nuts and coaches were bewildered. It was obvious this crew had an off night. If we give them the ammunition, they will fire.

And any idiot with a keyboard is allowed to post on the Internet. :(

Jmuvol Fri Mar 06, 2009 09:34pm

As a Tennessee fan, I didn\'t see the missed fouls the OP talked about. I was more interested in learning how to Truly" officiate from Bobby Knight. He and Brent put on a show of what officiating really is.....:eek:


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