Madison prep writer not a fan of 3-person crews

[Rich]

http://www.madison.com/wsj/blogs/Pre...438354&ntpid=1

This is from the guy who referred to my intentional foul in an earlier conference game as a flagrant foul.

[JRutledge]

It is clear this guy sit stupid. You should not have even made him remotely popular.

Peace

[26 Year Gap]

I cannot tell from the photo, but I think that fan may have spilled his soda. Too bad it is not filmed at actual speed so we could tell.

[zm1283]

He's talking about the lady in the red. She would have to be reacting to something that had already happened a second or so earlier, not the defender's hand on the shooter's arm. Either way, why is he shocked that calls are missed even in 3-whistle games? Does he think that NCAA, NAIA, NBA, etc. use 3 referees for sh*ts and giggles? I also love his terminology: "bench side" and "crowd side" referees.

[BktBallRef]

I guess this idiot thinks these "missed" calls would be made if there were only two officials working the game. :sarcasm:

Rich, why don't you invite this moron to work a scrimmage with you next fall so he can see how easy it is?

[just another ref]

Matt Goins' photo from Thursday night's game isn't the first time a photographer has shown me a missed call, but it might be the most blatant.

Give us photographs of the whole game, and we'll get all the calls right.

How long do you suppose this blatant contact, which apparently didn't even affect the shot, lasted?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Rich, why don't you invite this moron to work a scrimmage with you next fall so he can see how easy it is?

My thoughts exactly!!

Here ya go smart guy - here's a shirt and a whistle. Come join us and see if you miss anything. Oh yeah, nothing less than 100% correct calls is acceptable!

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is clear this guy sit stupid.

Sounds like quite a handicap. But maybe he stand smart.


Sorry, couldn't help myself.

[CMHCoachNRef]

"Matt Goins' photo from Thursday night's game isn't the first time a photographer has shown me a missed call, but it might be the most blatant."

Mr. Goins' camera was likely shooting somewhere between 4 and 6.5 frames per second. The shutter was open for only a small fraction of a second. A video may be helpful in showing the result of the contact. With just one frame of reference, while it certainly appears as though a foul could have been called in this situation, it is not possible to determine the duration of the contact or how it affected the shot.

Keep in mind, people in general resist change -- look how infrequently NFHS rules change. I would think that there are very few coaches in states where the 3-man system has been in place for many years -- like Ohio -- who would prefer 2-man because "the foul calls are better."

Ask the same writer the question in five years. While a number of you do not care for Mr. Robert Knight, he did have some interesting things to say about reporters, didn't he?

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

http://www.madison.com/wsj/blogs/Pre...438354&ntpid=1

This is from the guy who referred to my intentional foul in an earlier conference game as a flagrant foul.

We fear the things we dont understand!!!!!

[asdf]

From this idiot's blog....

"but there was no whistle for the obvious foul and no opportunity for a 3-point play (click on the photo to enlarge it and check out the fan's reaction in the background to the play)."

There is no possible way for a fan to react to a no-call at this point.

I sent an e-mail to this clown and asked him to admit and correct his own mistakes in this blog story.....

the crickets are still chirping.......

[Ref_in_Alberta]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

http://www.madison.com/wsj/blogs/Pre...438354&ntpid=1

This is from the guy who referred to my intentional foul in an earlier conference game as a flagrant foul.

I guess it comes down to the old saying... "opinions are like a$$holes, everybody's got one."

Rich, I hope you invite/challenge this guy to come and call a season's worth of games and then he "may" be able to write an informed article on what it takes to be an official.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Ref_in_Alberta

I guess it comes down to the old saying... "opinions are like a$$holes, everybody's got one."

You neglected the corollary: "... and most of them are full of crap."

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Ref_in_Alberta

I guess it comes down to the old saying... "opinions are like a$$holes, everybody's got one."

Rich, I hope you invite/challenge this guy to come and call a season's worth of games and then he "may" be able to write an informed article on what it takes to be an official.

Actually, I usually enjoy what this guy writes. But he couldn't be more in left field on this one. Like another poster on this thread, I have an idea what he's seeing, but it has nothing, NOTHING to do with 3 versus 2.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Actually, I usually enjoy what this guy writes. But he couldn't be more in left field on this one. Like another poster on this thread, I have an idea what he's seeing, but it has nothing, NOTHING to do with 3 versus 2.

That was part of my point about the small town paper or media.

Last spring there was a report written about how officials were not doing their jobs properly. And instead of just quoting coaches and taking their word for their feeling, the reporting contacted the IHSA directly and at least got quotes from many sources and entities in the report. This guy did not even investigate the differences between 2 and 3 from prominent people as to if these things he was complaining about had anything to do with the 3 Person system. To me the standards of journalism were lacking.

And this is what I have seen all my life with the papers I grew up with when it comes to informational pieces from media members.

Peace