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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 09:19pm
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Are you listening to a coach? If it's as you described - correct call.
I told the coach it was right call but I wanted to verify with those that actually know rules.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2009, 09:23pm
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From the list of misunderstood rules.....compliments of Billy

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17) A defensive player does not have to remain stationary to take a charge. A defender may turn away or duck to absorb contact, provided he or she has already established legal guarding position, which is both feet on the playing court and facing the opponent. The defender can always move backwards or sideways to maintain a legal guarding position and may even have one or both feet off the playing court when contact occurs. That player may legally rise vertically. If the defender is moving forward, then the contact is caused by the defender, which is a blocking foul.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2009, 12:47pm
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There is no requirement that the defender be completely stationary. I'm sure BillyMac will be along with another myth busted shortly.
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17) A defensive player does not have to remain stationary to take a charge. A defender may turn away or duck to absorb contact, provided he or she has already established legal guarding position, which is both feet on the playing court and facing the opponent. The defender can always move backwards or sideways to maintain a legal guarding position and may even have one or both feet off the playing court when contact occurs. That player may legally rise vertically. If the defender is moving forward, then the contact is caused by the defender, which is a blocking foul.
This is the way I explain the rule to rookie officials. Once the defender establishes a legal guarding position, the player may legally move in five of eight directions: left, back left, back, back right, and right. It is illegal for the defender to move forward right, forward, or forward left, and make contact. There may be exceptions for an airborne shooter, but this keeps it simple for rookie officials.
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 04:43am
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Even if the defender was moving backwards it would be a charge, wouldn't it?

As defender was at the right spot in time
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 04:49am
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Even if the defender was moving backwards it would be a charge, wouldn't it?

As defender was at the right spot in time
Coach, he was moving backwards and your player still managed to run over him!

Yes, PC is proper call.
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 08:16am
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Coach, he was moving backwards and your player still managed to run over him!
I often use this line with coaches, and it works every single time.

If I think the coach isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, I change the quote to "Coach, defender was moving backwards, which gave your player more room to avoid contact, but he still managed to run over him!"
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 03:03pm
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What about the following scenario?

A1 driving. B1 wants to take charge but starts to fall backwards way too early. He falls to the floor (without having been contacted by A1) and as A1 lands A1 trips over B1 and goes down.

Anything on B1?
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 04:50am
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This is the way I explain the rule to rookie officials. Once the defender establishes a legal guarding position, the player may legally move in five of eight directions: left, back left, back, back right, and right. It is illegal for the defender to move forward right, forward, or forward left, and make contact. There may be exceptions for an airborne shooter, but this keeps it simple for rookie officials.
You missed one direction -- UP.
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