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Old Tue Feb 17, 2009, 12:46pm
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In reference to block/charge plays you don't need to see between the players, you need to be able to see the lateral movement of the defender, and that can best be seen by the Lead, with the C having a pretty good look at it as well.
I don't know if I agree with that but I'm pretty sure I know why you have that opinion. Had a play in camp this summer in which I was the Lead on a fast break. Crash was just above the opposite block but all I could see was the defender's back from my 'pinched down' position. I had no whistle and the 'C' took the play and called a PC. NBA ref/college supervisor told his observer I should have had a whistle. Observer (big dawg D1 official) disagreed with his boss and said I rightfully let the C take it b/c I was straight-lined and the play was on the opposite side of the paint.
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2009, 02:04pm
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I don't know if I agree with that but I'm pretty I know why you have that opinion. Had a play in camp this summer in which I was the Lead on a fast break. Crash was just above the opposite block but all I could see was the defender's back from my 'pinched down' position. I had no whistle and the 'C' took the play and called a PC. NBA ref/college supervisor told his observer I should have had a whistle. Observer (big dawg D1 official) disagreed with his boss and said I rightfully let the C take it b/c I was straight-lined and the play was on the opposite side of the paint.
if it is above the block and almost outside the paint on the opposite side then i am ok with it, but lane line drives or drives right down the middle of the plane is absolutely the L's play and imo the right guy took the play but didn't get it right, oh well. Whack! and dump him! haha
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Old Tue Feb 17, 2009, 02:59pm
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everyone can have their own opinion about whether it was a charge or a block - that's fine. what really shouldn't be in doubt is who had the responsibility to make the call.

the philosophy has evolved over the last 1-2 seasons that the Lead should make the calls on drives coming toward the basket (particularly on block/charges). the point was really drilled home to me from several D1 conf. assignors this summer in their respective camps.

apparently, several years ago their were too many blarges called during D1 men's games and the idea developed that if you have the Lead make the call - and be responsible for making the call - that will eliminate the potential for blarge situations.

therefore, block/charge plays outside the lane on C's side will remain C's call; but for clarity sake, plays in the lane (both during and after transition) should be called by Lead.

this makes it vitally important that Lead rotate and get ball side when a skip-pass/ball reversal happens in half-court play to eliminate confusion. if Lead gets there BEFORE the drive starts, you'll avoid this potential blarge situation.

in this USC vs ASU play, the ball came right down the middle of the lane on a drive that started from strong-side....it was Leads call and "if" Center has a whistle, then he better "blow and hold"......
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