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Old Mon Feb 16, 2009, 10:53am
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cam, I'm only going to add two things. 1, I thought your questions were pretty well laid out for a "layman." In spite of the fact that you've played at all levels, you are a layman when it comes to officiating.

2, putting the elbows above his shoulder level means nothing. That's perfectly legal.

3 (math used to be my strong point), it's not the "arc of the hips" that counts. I judge it by whether the torsoe is moving as far as the elbows. That, and swinging the elbows just looks different than pivoting. If I can't tell the difference, he's pivoting.
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