Coaching Box Question

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

We aren't having it both ways. IMO, in HS (FED), the adult replacing the HC is now acting as HC and has all the same privelelges that the HC had when ejected. We need to quit thinking of it as "the HC is seatbelted" and think of it only as "coaching box priveleges are gone."

Scratch:

I could not have said it better myself. Well done lad.

MTD, Sr.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Scratch:

I could not have said it better myself. Well done lad.

MTD, Sr.

Come on, give yourself some credit. Your spelling would have been better.

From 10.5.1 SITUATION F: ...Whenever the coach has been charged (directly or indirectly) with a technical foul , he/she shall be informed that the privilege of using the coaching box has been lost for the entire game...

Slightly off-topic (from the category of "I did not know that":
From 10.5.1 SITUATION E:...However, if the coach begins the game by sitting somewhere other than where the box is located, he/she may not use the box privileges any time during the game. The coach must begin the game in a position within the box if he/she wishes to stand when permitted under the optional coaching-box provisions.

I wonder how many cowards are afraid to enforce this rule.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Come on, give yourself some credit. Your spelling would have been better.

Slightly off-topic (from the category of "I did not know that":
From 10.5.1 SITUATION E:...However, if the coach begins the game by sitting somewhere other than where the box is located, he/she may not use the box privileges any time during the game. The coach must begin the game in a position within the box if he/she wishes to stand when permitted under the optional coaching-box provisions.

I wonder how many cowards are afraid to enforce this rule.

Thanks for that bit of info. I definitely did not know that. And I am probably one of those cowards you refer to. But, I like to think of it as game management not cowardice.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

Thanks for that bit of info. I definitely did not know that. And I am probably one of those cowards you refer to. But, I like to think of it as game management not cowardice.

You obviously are not yet an esteemed member.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Slightly off-topic (from the category of "I did not know that":
From 10.5.1 SITUATION E:...However, if the coach begins the game by sitting somewhere other than where the box is located, he/she may not use the box privileges any time during the game. The coach must begin the game in a position within the box if he/she wishes to stand when permitted under the optional coaching-box provisions.

I wonder how many cowards are afraid to enforce this rule.

Had it in our regional game the other night. We told the coach we would enforce it. He chose to sit in the box to start the game.

[WreckRef]

From 2005-2006 points of emphasis:

"D. Coaching box: The committee wants coaches to stay in the coaching box. There is a constant problem when coaches wander...

Once the coaching box has been removed because of a technical foul, all related rules restrictions must apply. There's no way to get the box back after the privilege has been lost."

http://www.nfhs.org/web/2005/05/2005..._emphasis.aspx

To me that says once the privilege has been removed, it can't come back.

Sort of a side question. If the HC is ejected does this mean that any T's that would have been indirectly applied to the HC do not get applied to the AC? I would say they can't because the AC doesn't magically become the HC, he's still the AC.

Yes or no?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by WreckRef

There's no way to get the box back after the privilege has been lost.

Not true. I'm now offering a "coaches technical foul" rider on my foul insurance policy.

[Nevadaref]

Guys,
When a question like this comes up all that you need to do is consult the past interps archive!

2001-02 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations

SITUATION 9: At the end of their pre-game warm-up, players A1, A4, A5, A9 each dunk the ball and subsequently leave the floor and go to their dressing room. RULING: A technical foul is assessed to each player. The game starts with eight (8) free throws (2 for each of the technical fouls) and the ball is awarded to B at the division line opposite the table. Four team fouls toward the bonus are assessed to A. The head coach of A is assessed an indirect technical foul for each offense (4) and is subsequently ejected from the contest. Any coach assuming the responsibilities of the head coach for the game would not have the use of the coaching box. (10-3-5; 10-5 Pen)

Now you can cease debating this.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Guys,
When a question like this comes up all that you need to do is consult the past interps archive!

2001-02 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations

SITUATION 9: At the end of their pre-game warm-up, players A1, A4, A5, A9 each dunk the ball and subsequently leave the floor and go to their dressing room. RULING: A technical foul is assessed to each player. The game starts with eight (8) free throws (2 for each of the technical fouls) and the ball is awarded to B at the division line opposite the table. Four team fouls toward the bonus are assessed to A. The head coach of A is assessed an indirect technical foul for each offense (4) and is subsequently ejected from the contest. Any coach assuming the responsibilities of the head coach for the game would not have the use of the coaching box. (10-3-5; 10-5 Pen)

Now you can cease debating this.

Is this where I get to say "I told you so"?

[mick]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Slightly off-topic (from the category of "I did not know that":
From 10.5.1 SITUATION E:...However, if the coach begins the game by sitting somewhere other than where the box is located, he/she may not use the box privileges any time during the game. The coach must begin the game in a position within the box if he/she wishes to stand when permitted under the optional coaching-box provisions.

I wonder how many cowards are afraid to enforce this rule.

I reminded both VB coaches of that last night.

[jearef]

Nevada:

When I posted this question, I figured it had been handled in some casebook play somewhere. Just had to wait for you to enlighten me once again.

I know you have an archive of past interps posted. Is it searchable, meaning by keyword?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jearef

Nevada:

When I posted this question, I figured it had been handled in some casebook play somewhere. Just had to wait for you to enlighten me once again.

I know you have an archive of past interps posted. Is it searchable, meaning by keyword?

Sure, just open the thread entitled "Past Interps Archive" and use the pull down menu "Search this Thread" just above the first post.

This feature is available for all threads on this forum.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jearef

I know you have an archive of past interps posted. Is it searchable, meaning by keyword?

Just open the thread and hit CTRL-F (at least under IE). You can search any text-based web-site.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Just open the thread and hit CTRL-F (at least under IE). You can search any text-based web-site.

Works for Firefox, too, on Windows.

On a Mac, it's simply COMMAND-F.

[JugglingReferee]

Control-F works for Google Chrome, too.