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budjones05 Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:10pm

I need your name and number
 
So last night, I was in a small town Missouri and this team was down by 3 with .2 on the clock. The kid catches the pass and shoots a 3 and it was good before the horn goes off. After talking to my partners, we waved the shot off because the player didn't tap the ball in, but instead caught and shot the ball. The losing coach wants an explanation on why the bucket didn't count and didn't like my answer, but went on to the locker room. Meanwhile, while in the dressing room, a mom, (ex-official basketball official) wants my name and number so she can call and complain to MSHSAA. I told her to get out of my face and she had no right to talk to me after a game. WE had a little mob after the game, but the police were on hand and they escort us to our cars. Never seen this happen before, but glad the police was on hand.

OHBBREF Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:13pm

Ben Dover
 
My number is 4

shishstripes Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:20pm

Good call, know the rules, you cannot catch the ball with .3 or less on the clock, it has to be a tap as you said. Although as Derek Fisher showed us a few years ago, you can catch and release with .4 seconds. Does not matter how slow the clock operator is on starting that clock in this case. Unfortunately if you have an older clock system that doesn't deal with tenths of seconds you would count it.

doubleringer Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:23pm

[QUOTE=budjones05;578124] The kid catches the pass and shoots a 3 and it was good before the horn goes off. After talking to my partners, we waved the shot off because the player didn't tap the ball in, but instead caught and shot the ball. QUOTE]

Just ignore idiots like this after the game or have game management deal with them.

My question, just for clarification, is why did you have to get together with your partners to wave off the shot? Did you communicate with each other late during a dead ball to make sure everyone was on the same page and it had to be a tap? I only ask because getting together may give the impression that you are unsure. Normally in these situations I try to communicate that it must be a tip, wave it off if hard if it doesn't go, and haul buns outta there.

Nice job by the school to have an escort ready btw.

Drizzle Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:25pm

I've been told "if the shot isn't going to count, start waving it off before it goes in!" Since you knew before the throw-in they could not catch & shoot, as soon as they catch it you can wave it off, horn or no horn.

deecee Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:30pm

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Originally Posted by Drizzle (Post 578150)
I've been told "if the shot isn't going to count, start waving it off before it goes in!" Since you knew before the throw-in they could not catch & shoot, as soon as they catch it you can wave it off, horn or no horn.

Yup, I agree, You bought a bit of the headache on yourself. However any request for a number should be with, 867-5309.

shishstripes Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drizzle (Post 578150)
I've been told "if the shot isn't going to count, start waving it off before it goes in!" Since you knew before the throw-in they could not catch & shoot, as soon as they catch it you can wave it off, horn or no horn.

Agree with this. Game/situational awareness goes a long way in preventing problems.

This is somewhat similar to the South Carolina Championship where the officials got together and waved it off although with much more time on the clock. If official made a call right away, it might have just been another exciting finish.

VTOfficial Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:39pm

I had a similar situation in a JVB game last year. Visiting team is down by two coming the length of the court with under 5 seconds to play. As V1 drives toward the lane, he catches the ball on his hip on what would have been his last dribble and then takes his two steps for a running shot. So, he ended up taking three big steps for his lay-up, don't you know it, but the shot went in as the final horn blew. I was lead right on top of the play and waved off the shot and called a traveling violation. My partner closed in quickly from the trail with the same call. Game over.

My coach reacted by yelling at me and calling me terrible but we had no incident. My partner and I walked into the locker room, discussed the play further, and then went on our way.

stosh Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:51pm

name: Fox
number: 40

Mark Padgett Wed Feb 11, 2009 01:53pm

name: Charles Manson
number: 666

That should shut her up.

mick Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:20pm

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Originally Posted by budjones05 (Post 578124)
I told her to get out of my face and she had no right to talk to me after a game.

Just think it.
Silence and quotes, ya know ? ;)

Adam Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:21pm

Just tell her the AD has the information and close the door.

bob jenkins Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by budjones05 (Post 578124)
Meanwhile, while in the dressing room, a mom, (ex-official basketball official) wants my name and number


I'm a little confused -- what was a mom doing in your dressing room?

mick Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 578152)
However any request for a number should be with, 867-5309.

What's the significance of the number ?

Adam Wed Feb 11, 2009 02:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick (Post 578182)
What's the significance of the number ?

:D It's Jenny's number.


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