I need your name and number
 

So last night, I was in a small town Missouri and this team was down by 3 with .2 on the clock. The kid catches the pass and shoots a 3 and it was good before the horn goes off. After talking to my partners, we waved the shot off because the player didn't tap the ball in, but instead caught and shot the ball. The losing coach wants an explanation on why the bucket didn't count and didn't like my answer, but went on to the locker room. Meanwhile, while in the dressing room, a mom, (ex-official basketball official) wants my name and number so she can call and complain to MSHSAA. I told her to get out of my face and she had no right to talk to me after a game. WE had a little mob after the game, but the police were on hand and they escort us to our cars. Never seen this happen before, but glad the police was on hand.

Ben Dover
 

My number is 4

Good call, know the rules, you cannot catch the ball with .3 or less on the clock, it has to be a tap as you said. Although as Derek Fisher showed us a few years ago, you can catch and release with .4 seconds. Does not matter how slow the clock operator is on starting that clock in this case. Unfortunately if you have an older clock system that doesn't deal with tenths of seconds you would count it.

[QUOTE=budjones05;578124] The kid catches the pass and shoots a 3 and it was good before the horn goes off. After talking to my partners, we waved the shot off because the player didn't tap the ball in, but instead caught and shot the ball. QUOTE]

Just ignore idiots like this after the game or have game management deal with them.

My question, just for clarification, is why did you have to get together with your partners to wave off the shot? Did you communicate with each other late during a dead ball to make sure everyone was on the same page and it had to be a tap? I only ask because getting together may give the impression that you are unsure. Normally in these situations I try to communicate that it must be a tip, wave it off if hard if it doesn't go, and haul buns outta there.

Nice job by the school to have an escort ready btw.

I've been told "if the shot isn't going to count, start waving it off before it goes in!" Since you knew before the throw-in they could not catch & shoot, as soon as they catch it you can wave it off, horn or no horn.

Yup, I agree, You bought a bit of the headache on yourself. However any request for a number should be with, 867-5309.

Agree with this. Game/situational awareness goes a long way in preventing problems.

This is somewhat similar to the South Carolina Championship where the officials got together and waved it off although with much more time on the clock. If official made a call right away, it might have just been another exciting finish.

I had a similar situation in a JVB game last year. Visiting team is down by two coming the length of the court with under 5 seconds to play. As V1 drives toward the lane, he catches the ball on his hip on what would have been his last dribble and then takes his two steps for a running shot. So, he ended up taking three big steps for his lay-up, don't you know it, but the shot went in as the final horn blew. I was lead right on top of the play and waved off the shot and called a traveling violation. My partner closed in quickly from the trail with the same call. Game over.

My coach reacted by yelling at me and calling me terrible but we had no incident. My partner and I walked into the locker room, discussed the play further, and then went on our way.

name: Fox
number: 40

name: Charles Manson
number: 666

That should shut her up.

Just think it.
Silence and quotes, ya know ? ;)

Just tell her the AD has the information and close the door.

I'm a little confused -- what was a mom doing in your dressing room?

What's the significance of the number ?

:D It's Jenny's number.

fixed that for you..... but the question is a DAMN good one.....

Sadly enough, not only did I know this, I STILL have the cassette with the song.

http://www.song-lyrics-library.com/t...ng-lyrics.html

Hey...
Jenny, Jenny who can I turn to
You give me something I can hold on to
I know you'll think I'm like the others before
Who saw your name and number on the wall
Jenny I've got your number
I need to make you mine
Jenny don't change your number
8 6 7-5 3 0 9 (8 6 7-5 3 0 9)
8 6 7-5 3 0 9 (8 6 7-5 3 0 9)

Jenny, Jenny you're the girl for me
You don't know me but you make me so happy
I tried to call you before
But I lost my nerve
I tried my imagination
But I was disturbed

Jenny I've got your number
I need to make you mine
Jenny don't change your number
8 6 7-5 3 0 9 (8 6 7-5 3 0 9)
8 6 7-5 3 0 9 (8 6 7-5 3 0 9)

I got it (I got it), I got it
I got your number on the wall
I got it (I got it), I got it
For a good time call

Jenny don't change your number
I need to make you mine
Jenny I've got your number
8 6 7-5 3 0 9 (8 6 7-5 3 0 9)
8 6 7-5 3 0 9 (8 6 7-5 3 0 9)

Hey...
Jenny don't change your number
I need to make you mine
Jenny I call your number
8 6 7-5 3 0 9 (8 6 7-5 3 0 9)
8 6 7-5 3 0 9 (8 6 7-5 3 0 9)

Jenny, Jenny who can I turn to
For the price of a dime
I can always turn to you
8 6 7-5 3 0 9 (8 6 7-5 3 0 9)
8 6 7-5 3 0 9 (8 6 7-5 3 0 9)

If you live in area code 201, the number is for sale:

http://gawker.com/5143875/867+5309-for-sale

My brothers favorite song for forever. He even drove about 4 hours, one way, to Disneyland to hear it live.

A couple of weeks ago someone tried to auction the number off on Ebay.....Sad to hear about the cassette dude. Move into the 20th century.

With your help and with the assist from bigdogrunnin, I git it!
But somehow, I am sorry I asked. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sp...smiley-011.gif

But now you know, like many others, Jenny's phone number.

I don't think they had cassettes in the 19th century. At least, I don't remember any.

Wilson Pickett, Ma'am, 634 5789

"I can't give you my name. I need it. Don't you already have one?"

And you started it ! :)
Was that a 60's song that I may have on my 8-track ?

Why didn't calling official wave this off initially? Were you coming out of a TO, where you had time to discuss this prior to inbounding? An initial wave off would have been more palatable to the angry mob. Bottom line you were correct, but a little preventative medicine would have helped assuage things

That said, I'm sitting here in my office having the luxury of reflecting back to what you should have done.

:)

Actually the song was in the 80s. Eight-track was gone by then (when the song came out).

Peace

'80s, huh?
About the time my short term memory quit working, ...because of the '60s.:(

I'm kinda partial to BR549.
http://home.earthlink.net/~coop666/br549.jpg

Kind of a spinoff here: Do you guys ever mention the rule to the players or coaches, prior to the play? I've always discussed it with my partner(s) when we have a situation like the one in the OP, but I've never mentioned anything to the players or coaches. Would that help the situation or make things worse by getting involved in the strategy?

No, but I would remind my partners of this fact.

Peace

That's what I've always done, but I wonder if it could help in the above situation. But, that just opens up a whole different set of issues, so I agree that just sharing it with your partners is the best bet.

It is the coach's responsibility to know the rules. You are interjecting yourself into the strategy of the game to advise both coaches.

If someone wanted my name and number, I'll pull up one of my buddies off the cell phone, especially any of those brutes who play in the upper level of slow-pitch softball. They don't like it when someone gets personal about their behavior. :D

Mac, BillyMac ...
 

Mine is 007. I have a license to kill.

Good Mechanic ...
 

Agree. We've been taught to not only wave off the shot right away, not waiting for it to go in, or not, but to also wave it off while turning away from the basket, toward the table.

"Mary Had A Little Lamb" (Thomas Edison)
 

Didn't you have wax cylinders?

At Least My Vinyl Records Are Still Good, Right ???
 

What? What am I going to do with all my eight track tapes?

I want to know if she was hot looking, :D.

MTD, Sr.

And, you would of course, give the name "Tommy Tutone".

JM

Or a license to ill.

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