technical foul

[beachbum]

Originally Posted by beachbum

game senario

Team A is loosing and coach is frustrated, probably thinking his team is better. Foul call goes against him. Coach says out loud" this is the worst officiating I've seen"

Who in this group "T" him up? Who would just try to ignore it?

Second question.

Let's say you chose to ignore the comment, because the game was in the 4th and the coach was loosing the game. A week or so later, you have the same coach for a game. Do you mention in your pregame that criticising officials is unsportsmanlike, and won't be tolerated or do you just wait to see what happens in the game??????

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by beachbum

Second question.

Let's say you chose to ignore the comment, because the game was in the 4th and the coach was loosing the game. A week or so later, you have the same coach for a game. Do you mention in your pregame that criticising officials is unsportsmanlike, and won't be tolerated or do you just wait to see what happens in the game??????

While you may remember the coach, school, or team, each game they should start with a clean slate - don't hold grudges, it won't serve you well.

IMO, it is not appropriate to bring this up.

Example – had a situation my first yr doing HS where a young, first-yr F coach was upset with us and came into our locker room at the end of the game to tell us what he thought of us. V officials escorted him out. I filed a report. He got his. Told my Assignor if he wanted to remove me from future games at that school I would understand. He didn’t remove me. Backed me all the way.

Went back three weeks later – my antennae were up! Nothing was said. Nothing happened. It turned out to be just another game and a good lesson.

[Ignats75]

If the comment was directed at me, we got a T. If he's talkin to himself, he's just crazy.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by beachbum

Let's say you chose to ignore the comment, because the game was in the 4th and the coach was loosing the game.

What difference does that make?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by beachbum

Second question.

Let's say you chose to ignore the comment, because the game was in the 4th and the coach was loosing the game.

Your premise is flawed.

1st, 99.9999999% of the time this is said, it will be by the losing coach.

2nd, I don't care if the team is getting pounded 100-0, this comment does not go unpenalized.

[bigdogrunnin]

Several weeks ago, as I arrived at the game site, I found my partner had started the game by himself. No problem. A quick change and off I go. The HC from the home team comes to let me a locker room and tells me that my partner had T'd up the VC after a disputed call (ball rolled on top of the SQUARE backboard then off the side into a defensive players hands. He wanted OOB, my partner had a no call.

What the VC said was, "I guess we just have to bend over the table and take it from you, huh?"

I told my partner, that the coach should be thanking him, because if I had been on the floor, his {backside} would have been making a swift exit from the gym, and since he didn't have an assistant, his team would've been getting the loss by forfeit too. Thinking about it STILL pi$$es me off. I really wished he wouldn't have started the game without me.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin

"I guess we just have to bend over the table and take it from you, huh?"

Another coach who doesn't know there's no such thing as "over the back". I bet he wanted a "reach", too.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by beachbum

Second question.

Let's say you chose to ignore the comment, because the game was in the 4th and the coach was loosing the game. A week or so later, you have the same coach for a game. Do you mention in your pregame that criticising officials is unsportsmanlike, and won't be tolerated or do you just wait to see what happens in the game??????

Just T him up. The qtr.&score don't matter. Next game is a new game. If you take care of business the right way in the first game, the guy now knows what to expect from you if he acts up in the next game.

[bigdogrunnin]

You should have taken care of your business. As much as we may WANT or even NEED our co-officials to "get our back," sometimes that just won't happen. So, you have to do it yourself.

Personally, I have tossed two coaches in all the years I have officiating. The first, I was doing the game by myself. Coach acting a fool, so I stuck him. Late in the game, he wants a foul, and he got it . . . right after he slammed his clipboard down on the chair.

The second, I was calling with a less experienced official. He makes a GREAT call on an OOB play. Coach goes nuts. I tell coach to return to his box and coach his kids. He takes about 5-6 steps onto the floor and starts yelling at me. I stuck him. We shoot the T F-T and inbound the ball. A1 drives the lane and gets hammered. I am lead, and I have the foul. Coach goes off . . .

Me: "Coach, I see you don't have an assistant. I need to let you know that if you receive a 2nd technical foul, that you will be ejected and your team will forfeit the contest." I know, I know . . . should have stuck him right here . . . BUT . . . read on.

Coach: What are you gonna do? You aren't gonna do anything. Go call the game.

Me: TWEET. "Technical Foul on Red Coach. Coach is ejected. Coach, I see you don't have an assistant. The game is a Forfeit. Please put V-2 and H-0 in the book." (He was winning 27-19 in the middle of the 3rd!!) I turned and walked off the floor. My partner never did figure it out. Haven't called with him since . . . (interestingly enough, not by my choice either. He probably scratched me. )

Again, take care of business.