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Old Thu Feb 05, 2009, 12:24am
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I think pizanno makes a good point. Last Friday night, I used the exact line, "I don't count them, I just call them" after a coach had pointed out to us that the foul count was 7-0 in the opponents favor. Of course he had also pointed out to us when it was 4-0, 5-0, and 6-0. His team was lazy and playing defense entirely with their hands.

As I finished informing him that I just call them and turned to walk away, he yelled out to me that "you don't do that very well, either"!. Whack! As I was reporting the technical, the thought went through my mind to ask him if he liked #8 any better than the first 7, but I refrained. Although at that point I think the technical was necessary, I didn't feel very good about it, because I felt that at least to a certain degree I had baited him into it.
Pizanno might make a good point, but I have used that line several times and most of the time coaches shut up.

The problem with any line or any way you deal with coaches, not all people have the ability to deliver the line or the demeanor to back it up. And nothing works for everyone and all situations. I have never had to T up a coach for this line. I have on the other hand tried to use reasoning and try to appeal to the common sense of coaches only to have that blow up in my face. When a coach is yelling the foul count, they are not trying to be reasonable. They are trying to suggest you are cheating or incompetent. I feel those kinds of comments need to be addressed or they will just call you a cheat.

The question was asked "What would you do...." not what is the best thing for everyone. If I have learned anything by working over the years in all my sports, I have learned that everyone cannot just mirror what others do just because it works for an individual. Sarcasm works well for me because I like to send a certain message how ridiculous calling out foul counts are.

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Old Thu Feb 05, 2009, 08:45am
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The question was asked "What would you do...." not what is the best thing for everyone. If I have learned anything by working over the years in all my sports, I have learned that everyone cannot just mirror what others do just because it works for an individual. Sarcasm works well for me because I like to send a certain message how ridiculous calling out foul counts are.

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This is the best advise. One other point is that size makes a difference. i am not very tall, so I believe that coaches will try to intimidate me because of that. Snappy LITTLE(notice the pun)comments can easily backfire. I like to use "what is your question coach" as much as I can. I also just say that" you are acting unsportsman like and this is your warning"
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Old Thu Feb 05, 2009, 12:12pm
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This is the best advise. One other point is that size makes a difference. i am not very tall, so I believe that coaches will try to intimidate me because of that.
Size, race, gender, experience, grey hair can all be factors to how you are treated and how the people react to you. I know big Black guys that can say anything and no one response to them in a negative way.

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Old Thu Feb 05, 2009, 12:16pm
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Size, race, gender, experience, grey hair can all be factors to how you are treated and how the people react to you. I know big Black guys that can say anything and no one response to them in a negative way.

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I know big white guys, little black guys, little hispanic guys, and tall white women who get the same treatment. You're right, though, lots of things come into play here.
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Old Thu Feb 05, 2009, 07:07pm
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Correlation, Or Cause And Effect ???

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Gray hair can be (a) factor to how you are treated and how the people react to you.
As my hair has gotten grayer, my technical fouls have decreased. Coincidence?
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As my hair has gotten grayer, my technical fouls have decreased. Coincidence?
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