Lopsided Foul Counts

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rsl

I tried this in a game the other day:

Coach: The foul count is 6 to 1. Can you watch the other team?

Ref: OK coach. Where do you think the are fouls happening?

Coach: (Slight Pause) Watch the hand checks on my guards.

Ref: OK coach, I will watch for hand checks.

The funny thing was, he had to stop and think about where
the fouls were. That let me know he was just whining about the count.

What do you do when you do not call a single hand check?

Peace

[rsl]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What do you do when you do not call a single hand check?

Peace

I didn't call any (I didn't see any) and the question was an honest one. I really wanted to know if I was missing something. In any case, I don't think I will ask the question again. The posters here are correct- better to just listen.

[chayce]

I have players ask about foul count ever so often and usually just ask, "Do you know why the foul count is 9 to 3?" After the obligatory "No.", I just say, "It's because the fouls are 9 to 3!" They get the point.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rsl

I didn't call any (I didn't see any) and the question was an honest one. I really wanted to know if I was missing something. In any case, I don't think I will ask the question again. The posters here are correct- better to just listen.

I understand why you asked the question. I am just saying that if you ask and you do not call what they think is a foul, now you have set yourself up for the coach to go off. Kind of like how people address things in the pre-game meeting only to not call anything to the coaches or players liking and that gives them one more than to complain about. Something like hand checking is not always what coach’s think is. They think anytime you touch a ball handler, that is a foul.

Peace

[mplagrow]

I had a game that was 14-0 in the third quarter. Coach was going ballistic. The truth was, it was a mismatch, both teams knew it, and one team was driving the lane and scoring and the other team just hung around the outside and missed three-pointers. Who's going to foul a team lobbing up shots if they can't hit the broad side of a barn?

Halfway through the third quarter, the coach yelled, "I've never seen anything like this before in my life!" I laughed and said, "Neither have I!"

[CaRef5]

i usually respond, " coach im a referee not a mathematician!" ... its my job to officiate not keep counts of fouls =)

[muxbule]

My favorite response to the question of foul count is "which ones do you feel your team did not deserve"

[snorman75]

I only have one response to being asked why lopsided fouls:

"Well coach if you had taught your kids to run a offense so they stop shooting 3 pointers or turning the ball over you might get a call. You see the other team works the ball inside and takes good shoots. It might help too if they learned to play defense."

Then I just wait.

LOL

[just another ref]

It is worthwhile to mention that this thread is merely a chapter of the great coach essay titled:

I'm Losing and I Need Somebody to Blame

It is not that unusual for a team to be drastically behind in the foul count, but ahead in the score. Aggressive defense leads to turnovers, and all is good.......at first. You don't hear much from the coach trailing in the foul count at this point. But as the game goes on, if this trend continues, the free throws and the disqualifications add up, and the team that started in a hole comes from behind to win. What follows is inevitable.

"We had no chance. The refs fouled out 3 of our starters"

[deecee]

Originally Posted by snorman75

I only have one response to being asked why lopsided fouls:

"Well coach if you had taught your kids to run a offense so they stop shooting 3 pointers or turning the ball over you might get a call. You see the other team works the ball inside and takes good shoots. It might help too if they learned to play defense."

Then I just wait.

LOL

wow -- even i must say that any coach worth his weight in salt would get a T after this or if not an ejection. I am guessing this comment is a joke.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by deecee

wow -- even i must say that any coach worth his weight in salt would get a T after this or if not an ejection. I am guessing this comment is a joke.

The world will never know because any coach worth his weight in salt would have taught his kids how to run an offense.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

The world will never know because any coach worth his weight in salt would have taught his kids how to run an offense.

Last night I worked a boys varsity game as part of the tourney. The home team was on its second game of the day and ran out of gas in the second half. They jacked up 3s from everywhere while the fresher visiting team kept running their offense. The fouls were something like 12-4 at the end of the second half. Coach said nothing, players said nothing. Of course as soon as the fouls hit 6-4, the home team was fouling to stop the clock, so that may have had something to do with it.