9-4; Through the Basket from Below

williebfree · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 02, 2009, 09:15pm

I would not call the violation unless the ball is above the rim; however, I do not have an issue with others who would call it if any part of the ball enters the rim from below.

BillyMac · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 02, 2009, 10:34pm

I actually had this call last week, first time in twenty-eight years, but in my case the ball didn't come back down through the basket, it rolled off the rim, to the side. Easy Call.

MatthewPV · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 02, 2009, 11:26pm

Do we then go to the arrow?

BillyMac · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 02, 2009, 11:28pm

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Originally Posted by MatthewPV

Do we then go to the arrow?

I believe that there are only two choices here. It's either a violation, or it's not a violation.

MatthewPV · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 02, 2009, 11:32pm

So whomever last touches it, it would be the other teams ball based on the violation, right?

BillyMac · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 02, 2009, 11:41pm

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Originally Posted by MatthewPV

So whomever last touches it, it would be the other teams ball based on the violation, right?

Rule 9 Violations SECTION 4 TRAVEL, KICK, FIST:
A player shall not travel with the ball, as in 4-44, intentionally kick it, as in 4-29, strike it with the fist or cause it to enter and pass through the basket from below.
NOTE: Kicking the ball is a violation only when it is an intentional act; accidentally striking the ball with the foot or leg is not a violation.
PENALTY: The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation.

williebfree · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 02, 2009, 11:41pm

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Originally Posted by MatthewPV

So whomever last touches it, it would be the other teams ball based on the violation, right?

I had this play occur in an 8th grade girls game. A1 drives to hoop. As she swooped a shot B1 makes contact on A1's wrist. The ball enters the basket from below bounces off the backboard and falls back through the hoop.

In one of those "amnesiatic" moments, I could not recall the diminutive last line of the rule 9-4-4 which has a heading of "Travel, Kick, Fist", I awarded the basket and one FT.

Correct ruling: Ball becomes dead when the violation occurred (entered basket from below). A1 shoots two (as a result of B1 foul)

Johnny Ringo · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 14, 2009, 07:26am

Does the ball have to clear the cylinder from below in order for this to be called a violation?

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