Last night I set a pick & call a "T"

[Terrapins Fan]

I have been having a great season to date. This is my 9th year and I feel like I am on top of my game.

Tonight I have a boys JV game. ( I have done about 30 varsity games and 4 JV games ) 2 man mechanics are different from 3 man and I mess those up on time outs and between quarters, but over all, had a good night.

In the 3rd quarter I had to "T" up a player. I am lead and he is above the Free Throw line facing away from me. I am watching low post play and I hear him yell " Get the "F Bomb" off of me!" BANG "T" This is my 2nd "T" of the year. Last year I was at about 15 by this time in the season.

Earlier the same player gave the crowd the finger ( both officials missed it but the crowd told us about it )

Later in the 3rd quarter, I am working the trail position while they are working the weave and I was near mid court when the ball was stolen and the defensive player ran into me and it was a perfect pick for the steal.

Not much I could do, I needed to move with them working the weave side to side.

2/3's done, 30 days left. the seasons are just too short.

[JugglingReferee]

Good call on the T. Too bad you missed the crowd salute; the players then would have been sittin' after the T that you did call.

[deecee]

On the 1 finger salute to the fans, especially at this level, would anyone eject the player?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

On the 1 finger salute to the fans, especially at this level, would anyone eject the player?

I've only had it once, and it was a player who'd already been DQ'd for fighting.

[Man In Blue]

Depends if I thought the coach would handel it so I didn't have to.

I know most of the coaches and their styles. Most would only allow the wave 1 time.

Before you jump on me- remember this is a judgment call!

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Man In Blue

Depends if I thought the coach would handel it so I didn't have to.

I know most of the coaches and their styles. Most would only allow the wave 1 time.

Before you jump on me- remember this is a judgment call!

What's there to jump on -- your bad judgement(if its to not discipline at all -- if its for flagrant or not then I agree with you)? A player flipping the bird to the stands, at the least, deserves a technical whether or not the coach IS going to handle anything.

If a coach is going to discipline his players has no bearing on the job you have to do. And any coach worth his weight in Ford or GM stock will not give you any grief over this T.

I personally wouldnt kick a player out, and it happend in a GV game of mine last year, I t'd her up and told the coach. He promptly sat her the rest of the game. But I was completly shocked that it happened, and literally 2 feet away from me and during live ball action. It took me about 3 seconds just to register it because it was so close.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

What's there to jump on -- your bad judgement? A player flipping the bird to the stands, at the least, deserves a technical whether or not the coach IS going to handle anything.

Sounded to me that the question was flagrant or non-flagrant. Doubtful I'd call this flagrant, but I'd have to see it before deciding.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Man In Blue

Depends if I thought the coach would handel it so I didn't have to.

I know most of the coaches and their styles. Most would only allow the wave 1 time.

Before you jump on me- remember this is a judgment call!

This is a poor case of Sportmanship........

[Adam]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

This is a poor case of Sportmanship........

Right, but the judgment is whether it's flagrant or not, IMO.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Man In Blue

Depends if I thought the coach would handel it so I didn't have to.

I know most of the coaches and their styles. Most would only allow the wave 1 time.

Before you jump on me- remember this is a judgment call!

He must think he's the Messiah.

[cmar]

what about this situation. let's say you have a HS V game. the fans are getting on the opposing team, maybe nothing so egregious that it's immediately considered unacceptable to all involved (i know AD's try to keep crowd control, and it's subject to what each person thinks is an acceptable cheer, but let's say they're doing some namecalling, maybe swear word thrown in there here and there. they're getting on the players, doing what student sections do. eventually one of the opposing players gets tired of it, because they have been giving him crap, nothing you would automatically think to eject a specator for, but its been coming consistantly a and throws a quick finger to the student section. do you T the player for the finger? do you T the crowd for unsportsmanship for baiting the player into giving the T? do you T both teams and warn that any players/spectators doing anything suspect from this point on will be immediately ejected?